There seems like a lot of potential here and currently, a lot of missed opportunities. I’m definitely interested in Move but I haven’t been convinced yet.
No thanks I’m fine with cable and not having to deal with WiFi if I can.
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I’m on the same boat. I’ll wait for a bit more updates down the road before buying.
Also, there are already a few ableton move devices placed on the local marketplace for sale, people only liked it for weekend to play with it.
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When I buy mine sometime after Christmas, the first thing I’m going to do is come here and complain about all of its shortcomings that I already knew about from reading the product description of what it can and can’t do.
I can’t wait! Except I can, until after Christmas.
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Seems very odd as you can return it for a full refund unless they are trying to sell it for more?
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I agree. I would love to see more sample editing capabilities and probability. I understand wanting to impose limitations but the 4 track limitation, is enough. They should open up more functionality within the clips and sequencer.
Maybe trying to maintain parity with Note might be a hindrance 
I don’t know. Both of them could benefit from more creative input.
I don’t why people dont return it to ableton? Not going to ask them. Why its odd? People play with devices, if its not for them, they sell it.
I did it too with many devices, didnt even bother to send back to the company. I also just put it on the marketplace.
I know it doesn’t need to be said but just in case anyone was wondering - I’m returning the Move. Not because it’s not a solidly-built, great-sounding device with a great future ahead of it and legends such as Cenk as part of the dev team, but because at this point in my musical journey, it just doesn’t do enough that my current setup doesn’t already cover. I kinda knew that going into it mind you. And I know I’ll miss it. Likely I’ll get another down the road. But for now, I’m gonna stick with what I have and try to make songs rather than learning new devices and never making anything new.
By the way, the Move can sound absolutely brutal! I had a bassline going on it onto which I placed the Saturator and with some tweaks it sounded phenomenal, really industrial. Same with drums, the Move can really knock the stuffings out of sounds and you could totally play a filthy techno rave with just this device. Excellent headroom and long stereo sample support.
I wanted to make a demo but I’m off to Spain for a little while and don’t want to miss the return period.
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''Ableton offers a 30-day return policy for Move, which allows customers to return the product for a refund if they decide it’s not for them. ‘’
Kinda ridiculous IMO to go through all the hassle and risk of selling it unless you think you can get more than your money back in full risk free!
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I found a used one for 399€ here in Germany and asked the seller if he knows about the 30 day policy…
will see what he says
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Getting the GAS for this 
For anyone that has the EP-133 and the Move I’m interested to know how the speakers compare between the two? I know the Move speakers aren’t going to be great but are they any better than the EP-133?
I’ve only had the EP-133 for a few months and haven’t had much time to use it even but the sample storage limit, no resampling and not being able to chain patterns or record performance fx have been slightly grating me. Enjoying how they’ve done the sequencer and the fader fx per group though 
Sorry if this has been asked before too, but is it possible to run the Move via USB-C as an audio input into Live to use MacBook speakers like you can with the SP 404mk2?
Just tried it and yes you can. The built-in speakers are pretty bad. Nowhere near the OP-1 F. But better than the OP-Z.
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Thanks! I really like working with the SP this way so to have full portability with bearable speakers and this option would be great.
You can also sit the Move on top of the MacBook Pro and its rubber feet keep it off the keyboard. They stand on the Mac’s aluminum rim. This is great when you use it in controller mode.
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I have a few things with speakers, here is my ranking for no good reason 
1st- MPC LIVE
2nd - OP1-F
3rd -MOVE
4th- OP-Z
All of them a lot better than things with no speakers (looking at you Tracker Mini!)
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Is it fair to say the Demographic target for the Move is people beginning their music journey who have no equipment?
not at all
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I would say that as per Ableton’s very clear and direct marketing, that Move is a portable sketchpad for Live. And, its demographic is anyone who finds this useful. I don’t know why people keep discussing this device as though it’s meant to be anything other than this. You may be able to do more with it but, it’s been very intentionally designed as a musical notepad.
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That might’ve been Ableton’s intended target.
That’s not who’s getting it, based on what I see on the Internet
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I have a studio full of equipment and I still bought it…it will appeal to all Live users (even PUSH 3SA users, as I am one!) and maybe even lure a few people in to Live with the free licence.
If I was beginning a musical journey this wouldn’t be the first gear I bought, no one ‘needs’ this, it’s just really fun and inspiring bit of kit to have around if you can afford it!
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