You should do it!
If you do, one of the most confusing things coming to live (from Logic) is the difference between Session and Arrangement modes. I REALLY wish Live did what Logic (and Bitwig?) can do by being able to view both at the same time and then dragging clips from session view over to arrangement view!!!
My brother is coming from Cakewalk and I think Arrangement vs Session view is one of the most challenging things in the beginning.
His biggest complaint and one Iāve heard often is how to use Session view if youāre not making electronic music.
By they way, heās loving Live now and uses both views
I would love to see Ableton give more attention to arranging and finishing songs. They have obviously put in a lot of great work on starting, brainstorming, jamming, etc.
And now with Move, you can even sketch songs outside of the DAW. While I truly applaud all those efforts, it would be nice to see them, if only for a while, come up with some new ways of finishing those initial sketches.
I remember loving Reasonās implementation of Blocks, back in the day. Things that help people quickly arrange/move/expand/contract different song sections - intro, verse, chorus, breakdown, outdo, etc. would be very welcome.
Right now it seems a bit tricky to select, duplicate, and move various sections along a timeline without accidentally messing up adjacent song sections, and lot of tedious tidying up is always needed.
Not a huge deal. But some smoothing out of the process could be really nice.
Agree with this, slip editing and some other things would be nice. When you get used to it, itās pretty fast, but could be nicer.
Well I produce almost exclusively in MPC Software then take all the audio tracks to do a final arrangement, mix, automation and mastering. I donāt know how easier it can be as I am loving the fact that I can copy paste sections, drag things around etc. If I understand you correctly, you are worried you may accidentally mess up the next section. You can create blank bars to prevent it until you know you are ready to stitch it all together. I may have misunderstood you though .
Thatās an interesting idea. Slip editing, from video editing, right? Would be cool to see some timeline content editing ideas from Premiere, Final Cut, etc. incorporated into a DAW like Ableton Live.
No, youāre right. I guess Iām saying, itās not a major headache as it stands. And thereās always workarounds and we all still finish songs in Live.
But I think thereās a few more missing tricks that could make it even easier for quickly arranging, rearranging, and trying out new ordering of song sections. See Reasonās Blocks for ideas. Maybe other DAWs have something similar. I dunno.
Iāll leave it up to people smarter than me. Iām just saying it would be nice to be surprised with some major workflow improvements on the Arrangement side of Live next.
I had to quickly see what Reasons Block mode is. I think i see what you mean. Yes I can see it as an improvement. Absolutely! Ironically while it sucks on so many things, MPC Software (and of course standalone machines) has a Song Mode to easily assign intros, verses, chorus, break, outro etc.
And I may have misunderstood you as well, but when I try to do things like this - inserting blank bars between sections, it always messes me up. My song sections sometimes donāt transition so cleanly with a cut right down the middle. There can be multiple overlapping elements and continuous elements that continue into the next section or two.
I think Reasonās Blocks handled this quite well. Iām sure I will mess up my description of it, but it was like you had two layers on a timeline. One for neat clean cut sections, and then a top layer unaffected that could carry over to the next section - perhaps a slowly building pad or strings could continue to swell over a verse and a chorus, and fade out gradually over a breakdown. Hope that makes sense, hehe.
I guess what Iām actually saying is Iād like to see Ableton ripoff Reasonās Blocks and put their own spin on it and make it even better. 
Yes! Now that you say it, Iām remembering people compare the two, back when Reason first introduced Blocks. Good call!
I have zero clue about MPCās, but if Ableton could grab some ideas from MPC and Reason Blockās arrangement ideas, I wouldnāt mind.
Session view is lame af. Live is awesome an you can finish as many tracks as you got the time for without ever touching session view. #forgetaboutsessionview
Definitely tricky! I think itās more of a āare you comfortable with thisā and probably not for everyone. Very recently i messed up a whole second half of the track because of this. And didnāt realize really until the very end.
Ouch. Yeah, been there many times. At least in my case, itās never the end of the world or anything. I just take a deep breath and go about restretching out loops, shifting things around again, resetting loop start points in clips, etc.
But I always feel it could be faster and less painful if Ableton would borrow some of those Reason, and MPC, ideas to quickly shift song chunks around on the timeline. Lord knows enough DAWs have borrowed from Live over the years. 
Just curious, was it because the clip start point had been messed up? This one always gets me. After any sort of extensive timeline rearranging, I have to go into every single clip and make sure the start point is where I want it. Hope that makes sense, might be forgetting the proper Live terms.
btw, just to stay on topic, Iām more than pleased with Live 12.1 and where weāre at with idea generation and sketch abilities. Iām particularly enjoying the midi generators and new sequencer Pack.
If they show that type of love to the arrangement side of things, I donāt knowā¦ I guess Iād finally have no excuse and have to lock myself in my studio until I finish this giant folder of song sketches and 8 bar loops Iāve somehow built up over the years. Be careful what you wish for and all.
how do you do that?
View -> Second Window
And then both macos and windows can arrange two windows side by side in fullscreen.
Hmm, for some reason full screen always takes me out of second window mode. How do you use both in full screen? Second window checked as well as full screen, yet it reverts to session view.
edit: oh snap. I just dragged one full screen into the other and they joined. Magic!
Thanks! This is how little I know about Live. I never thought of using that function. So cool. Just opened up a whole new way of thinking about and using Live.
