Ableton Live 12

A low key dope element of this update will be the new
max4live midi generators/transformers created by users.

Whole new can of midi worms on the horizon.

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Possibly a daft question, but where’s the bar gone to scroll left/right through tracks? I can use cursor left and right, but has than been deliberately removed?

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do you guys think there is a chance we will ever get native stem separation with Ableton? I know there are plenty of VSTs that work great and I really love seato sample, but I still wish there was a way to use it with my push 2.
I have the feeling Ableton 12 is missing this feature because they would have to make it work on push 3 standalone. But that’s just me guessing. And I am really curious to see how well stem separation will work on the MPC line.

Preferences > Display & Input > Show scroll bars

https://ableton.centercode.com/project/forum/thread.html?cap=ea2ce822bd02401dba446c068717bc68&forid={176b2b34-ed72-4cd4-8783-94872ceae6a3}&topid={ade45cbf-a993-45e0-a9c1-0382a8510a10}&tp=1&to=asc&ts=last&tl=15&tv=desc#{A3176CFD-DA0C-433C-8A7E-36C9A3629F26}

Thank goodness for that! Cheers!

Why not on by default though!? :slightly_smiling_face:

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Whenever I see a question like this my reaction is ā€œwhat would Ableton think?ā€ Would this count as being an ā€œinstrument?ā€ From what I’m seeing, anything that doesn’t meet that criteria is often a side-concern, since ā€œturn your comuter into an instrumentā€ is what they’re selling to you. It does seem to be a feature many are asking for but only FL (if I have this right) has gone ahead and added it. I guess to compete with a 3rd party site/plugin it needs to be at least on a par, otherwise folks would just use the alternative. The one thing that could lead them there is its history as a loop based DAW.

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you are probably right. It would just be really handy to sample into Live, slice to midi track, get rid of e.g. drums and have all the power of a drum rack. so I guess as a simpler feature it would be awesome at least for me, but you have a point because it would be just a new feature to an already existing instrument…

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They already have audio to midi so stem separation isn’t a million miles away conceptually

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Got the beta through on Friday - spent a few hours with it today, and I absolutely love Meld and Roar! Roar, especially, is just so nice for sound design. It might not have all the bells and whistles of other things I have (Thermal for example), but the UI and immediacy of it means I’m much mor likely to use it often.

I made a the backbone of a techno track today and other than a couple of breakbeat loops, I didn’t use anything but those 2, and glue compressors (bit obsessed with using it to clip tracks after watching a video Ben Pest posted on his Patreon), and between the 2 if them it’s sounding nice!

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Does ableton 12 have free tempo recording? So can just play some improvising on the keys and it detect best tempo like in logic, and then can quantize it to that, its how i start every track in logic so would be good have in ableton too

If you use MIDI capture to begin a track, this is how it works. I use that all the time.

If you prefer audio, the Looper device can set tempo.

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Roar is also amazing on guitar. I’ve stopped using my third-party amp sim (TH-U) because Roar+Ableton’s amp and IR stuff is so good.

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For some reason my Live 12 gives huge CPU spikes, even with only 1 midi track with 1 EQ8 device. It used to run fine. I don’t have issues with Live 11 either.

I found that when I stop the task ā€œAbleton Index.exeā€ in task manager, the issue goes away (but it will probably give other issues instead, didn’t test properly yet).

I tried reĆÆnstalling, but it didn’t help. It is currently unusable sadly…

Any ideas what’s going on? It seems I’m the only one with this issue?

I’ve had lots of bugs. Haven’t tested the newest beta version but for a while, if I started a new project and double clicked an empty clip to start entering midi, Live would crash.

I’m pretty sure that indexer is the one that powers the new similarity search and so scans through all the samples it can find initially. Maybe leave it running overnight to do its thing and then see if you still get spikes once it’s finished.

There’s also an ā€œEnable Similarity Search Analysisā€ in the settings you can turn off which I haven’t tried but I would assume also stops that task.

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Does anyone run this on an M1 silicon mac? Curious how it holds up.

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I run it on my M1 MBP, it runs fine for me.

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Same. Suns like a champ. Remember to lower your buffer size on M chips for better performance.

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I did uninstall Live 12 and re-installed it again recently. I think it started after that, so it makes sense that it needs to redo ā€œits thingā€ again for a while before it working properly. Will try, thanks.

This might sound nuts, but it totally works. Best CPU for mine is with 128

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