Well, now it seems like, and I might be mistaken, each time you do bounce to new track, it does what it says on the tin. But if we could bounce to new lane in track, I could do multiple effect iterations, experiment, then pick the best parts for each bar or whatever. And turn this into a new cohesive track.
So like comping, but bouncing to audio instead of recording multiple lanes or inserting samples into lanes?
What would be an advantage compared to comping as it currently is?
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nice Arp tips
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Oh, yeah - that would be great!
But most of the time Iâm using BiP, I use it on a MIDI clip, and (at least for now) Live canât mix MIDI and audio on the same track, even in comp lanes.
Also, bouncing to comp lanes would result in the FX being applied twice, because theyâd be rendered to audio and then still processed on the track level. Live would have to add some automation to disable the FX at places where bounced âtakesâ are used. Doable, but seems complicated.
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What I was thinking was that you would have a âtarget trackâ. So each time you bounce to comp, as Iâve come to call it, it adds another lane in that target track. Then you could just change effects, do some automation runs or whatever, then dump it into a new lane, and comp it together. It would not seem like much of a difference from just outputting it to another track and comping, but sometimes these tiny qol changes are awesome if you do tons of iterations, and itâs integral to your workflow.
Edit: Looked into if it was possible to do something this with M4L, but thereâs no exposed API for take lanes as of now, se seems like a no go.
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Iâm looking for a sampler plugin that can play looped samples like free running oscillators, i.e. they will continue looping and playing in the background so to speak, and when you trigger the sampler, the envelope will open up. Does anyone know a Max4Live device for this maybe? Bonus points if it works with Push 3 SA! 
Perhaps Catch?
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Maybe you can build this yourself with an audio clip. In theory you could put a utility on the audio track, and use a midi track with an envelope MIDI device mapped to the gain of the utility.
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It sounds like youâre talking about something like Granulator which is already in Live Suite?
Iâve also had my eye on these two, this guyâs stuff is wild. I got the LFO Cluster device and it works in standalone other than doing mapping, I think these should also.
This one is granular:
And this one is a looper:
Caveat that they canât be played chromatically by default afaik, but you could probably either p-lock the pitch or use a key tracking LFO. I havenât tried either, but have had the browser window open to buy one or both in the next couple of days, slightly expensive for max devices but they look really good to me.
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The Looper device can be uncoupled from Abletonâs transport. You can also switch off the global launch quantization and just use regular clips.
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Sat down with Granulator III but couldnât find a way to get the sample oscillator to become free running â but had lots of fun! Will take a look at those M4L devices.
Smart! I just tried this, and it works the way I wanted. Ultimately, it would be nice to have it in a sampler with filters and all, but I could use an auto filter or something and modulate that with the Envelope MIDI Device as well⌠Iâve been using Bitwig for some time and quite recently started using Live 12 again. Itâs nice to see that, even though itâs a bit more clunky, that Ableton Live supports this kind of modulation mapping.
Misread that post, the Kentaros are completely not what youâre looking for - as others have said envelope triggering a utility or maybe look at this free low pass gate.
I just caved and bought Helisert - itâs bananas, super musical. I have no idea how heâs managed to do this without clicks. I also have no idea what Iâm doing but just playing a sample into it and turning knobs on push is really enjoyable and seems to be turning out much more usable results than a lot of these kinds of effects tend to.
It may look convoluted at first, but you could use a rack and map the macros to the parameters you want to control live like filter, res, envelopes and modulation.
There are several ways to do it, you could use a midi track with Envelope Midi (under Midi Effects) and map it to gain on a Utility device that sits on the audio track with a looping audio clip. Put and Auto Filter after or in front of Utility and you have a simple voice.
You can map the same envelope to Auto Filter or use a second one. Any midi note on the midi track will trigger the envelope and thus open the vca.
Downside is you have the envelopes on a different track than your audio clip with the filter, so you canât put them in one single rack and you have to switch tracks to control both (unless you map them to a midi controller).
Or you could use the already mentioned Granulator (v2 is more stable than v3) together with the GranulatorInput device. It letâs you grab audio from anywhere in Live and send it to the Granulator. Send your free running audio to Granulator and then you can open the vca by triggering Granulator.
Or, best option imho, because you get everything on one track is to use the âClassic Playerâ (part of âMax 7 Pitch and Time Machinesâ, if you donât have it installed, you can download it for free from Ableton) on a midi track. Load a sample, press play to start it and use a Midi Envelope mapped to Utilityâs gain like in the examples before. Insert Auto Filter (or whatever you like).
Classic Player is an M4L audio effect, so it wonât get triggered or controlled by midi notes.
Like this:
Or neatly in a rack with 16 macros to cover all important parameters:
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I would like to mute clips (midi (aka midi mute) and or audio). are there ways to achives this, without deactivating the outcoming audio? I do prefer not to create seperate midi and audio tracks for each soundsource. I plan to map this function to a controller.
press 0 while selecting the clio
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I made my own midi mute with m4l but there must be different ways to do it. Actually canât you just make a midi rack with one empty chain and mute midi from there ?
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Still happens to me sometimes. Super annoying.
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I came across this yesterday for the first time. I did something that made it go away, not sure what it was, though. I think it was the midi track I created, but maybe it was something else. Whatever I did, I didnât have to close and reopen Live.
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I pick something from the browser and just âsprayâ on the tracks, and the message disappears 
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