Ableton Live 12

Very few VST3 plugins keep their presets in appropriate file format/structure, like the Plugin Alliance stuff that you’ve shown. Most won’t show the presets, I think?

(that’s the case with all DAWs, not just Live)

Nice! What’s the advantage over the native MIDI Monitor, though?

Yea, I should’ve added the caveat if the plugins work that way.
As you say, most I’ve used use their own internal preset system.

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I’m glad you asked, the main difference is that KORD Detect will append/rename the MIDI clip with all the chords it detects. It also has a Key recognition algorithm which will tell you which key the clip is in and optionally write out the chords in roman numerals.

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That’s useful, indeed! Thanks :slight_smile:

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This question is almost too broad for this thread but I don’t know if it warrants its own thread. What are people’s favorite VTS for realistic drums? I want to start putting together my own drum breaks rather than relying as much on the tried-and-true samples we all know and love. I’m leaning toward Addictive Drums 2, but I don’t know that much about other options.

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Which version of Live you have?

Because the Suite comes with lots of Drum Racks with really well sampled realistic drum kits:
Session Drums | Ableton
Session Drums Studio | Ableton
Session Drums Club | Ableton

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Same boat, I picked EZ Drummer 3.

The last drum kits releases have more mixing options, than the earliest that date back to EZD 1 & 2.

Superior Drummer 3 was overkill for my current needs, but there is still the option to crossgrade if needed.

Cheers

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I’m on 12 Suite. Now I feel silly, I didn’t even realize some of these drum racks were multisampled! Gotta check these out before anything.

Yeah Superior Drummer is way overkill. I’ll look at EZ Drummer!

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Yeah, definitely do that! There’s also lots of MIDI patterns that go with them to use as-is or as a starting point / inspiration!

Also, as a Cubase user I’ve been quite impressed with Groove Agent :slight_smile:

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Holy crap Ezdrummer is absolutely amazing. Big recommend from me too.
Free EZX bonus this month until the 28th made it a no brainer. The grid editor is better on EZ drummer than SD3 but i think there will be an update soon to SD to bring them closer to parity.

The ableton stock “pack” kits are pretty darn good. Worth trying for sure. I don’t think they come close to what EZ drummer and SD offers though, especially from a workflow / articulation editing standpoint.

That paired with EZbass has really invigorated my approach to song writing. Instead of making 20 crap patterns and picking the 2-3 good ones. I can focus on a long series of variations and then drag the good parts into session view for further editing. I usually end up duplicating the track over and trying with my own drums. ALWAYS it ends up in using both, layering and mixing certain parts, or taking out the kick and programming or loading my own.

i just wish i learned about these things sooner :slight_smile:

this is me using the dark industrial ezx kit. I saw the verbos styled module in the kit’s visuals and it definitely caught my interest. lol

i trialed ezbass and ezdrummer for a week, it was such an easy purchase. Toontrack is based in sweden too which is kinda neat :grin:

Session Drums Studio | Ableton ← this was my fav one of the bunch. Also big plus for Ableton making these MPE enabled. One big downside of Toontracks stuff, they have shown no sign of integrating it into their products.

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SD3 must be like what, 7yo?.. it’s about time they update that beast! :smiley:

It’s hard to find a video showing the nuance EZD3 can bring and multitraking makes it really shine IMHO.

Some sound testing Monomono on EZD3 & RV8 :

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I did a little jig in my room to this. Very nice. Yea i still want SD :smiley: the options for mixing in it are unreal. All the mic positioning stuff etc. Need to really get good at the other ones then i will graduate

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This sounds really good, awesome! Is it possible to send individual drums to their own tracks for processing?

Yo, this is very similar to the kind of thing I’m looking to do drum-wise. I’m definitely gonna download the trial and mess with it in the coming week or two.

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yessir!

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This sounds really good, awesome! Is it possible to send individual drums to their own tracks for processing?

EZD3 has 20+ something outputs.

I usually make some subgroups in LIVE per instruments and the room mics/ambient in their own. The sculpting in EZD3 mixer. Can’t say if this is “the right way” of doing things, but that’s my current modo… ^^

Some kits have multi mics channels for kicks, snares, overheads etc.

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I’m drooling over the layering options of SD3! hahahaha

A complete drum recording studio, but it takes a whole hard drive by itself!!! XD

Each kit is like 80/100 Gb and the core kit 200Gb! It seems you ca avoid the surround channels downloads tho… XD

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here i am thinking 15gb EZX’s are bad :joy:

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Rocking EZBass too, so underrated IMHO : multichan in LIVE with DI & plugged to amp sim. :smiling_imp:

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I switched over to Ableton from Logic a couple years ago. I still haven’t delved too deep due to mostly using DAWs like old four tracks to do final mixes. One thing I miss from Logic that might be in Ableton is the gain adjustment and normalize option for individual files. Is there something similar in Ableton that I just haven’t found yet?