Ableton Live 11

Would be fun if they released just that, and you still can’t sample into the the sampler

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I would upgrade immediately even if they changed just that. It would be extremely useful.

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:rofl:

Im not sure i agree. The new m1 mac mini is crazy powerful for its size and a cpu like that could easily run it if it’s optimized properly.

We will have to see what happens.

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The tech is there but the economies of scale for Ableton are not.

Maschine Plus is a fairly good example. There’s a device that is over double the cost of the controller only version and in current guise is unlikely to ever offer the “full” Maschine experience. It does a very decent job though. So, if a standalone full version Live was to appear I genuinely think we’d be talking £1,500+ and that’s were things crumble quickly.

It’d be more likely to see Live running on iPads in my opinion!

I’d much sooner see an improved Push 3 controller. I would possibly be a little disappointed if Ableton went standalone as it’d possibly shift resources away from the stuff I’d want to see develop quicker!

But, like you say, we will have to see what happens.

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Just got beta access! Applied in early January. Must mean they’re super close to release as they only granted me access to Live 10 beta like a week before it dropped. Excited to dig in!

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I just got beta access a few minutes ago and I applied in mid November!

This is all I’ve been waiting to see… for the love of…

Looks like me putting off updating my pattern clips device was a good idea!
This should make things so much better!

The ability to send MIDI to and from Max for Live devices is also a huge game changer for Hardware instrument integration in general. No more relying on old 3rd party Externals to get the job done :smiley:

You’d be surprised at the world that has just opened with these seemingly small changes to the API!

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I wonder how this will work in a backwards-compatible way for M4L devices, though, or will we be in a fragmented world where we have to maintain different device versions for Live 9/10 and Live 11 separately.

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Seems like that will be the case. Especially when taking advantage of new parts the Live 11 API. I don’t see them adding the same features to the Live 10 API once Live 11 is released. I could be wrong though.

I’ve already had this come up when I jumped on the new easier to use live.text device. People who were using early versions of a device I made weren’t able to see the text.

It’s fair to assume that if you adopt some of the new Live 11 functionality in an updated devices then you may have to support an older device as well as a newer one. It really depends on the device though.

Older devices should still work with new versions of Live and Max, just not the other way around.

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Do they have LFOs for CCs and VST automation baked in yet?

How is Push support for the M4L stuff - better integration?

I’m really enjoying Live 11 on an M1 MacBook Air, only issue I’m having is with drum racks. They’re extremely CPU intensive. A single random drum rack from Ableton (808, 909 etc) with no other devices is running at 30% CPU. Hope they get this sorted out as it seems kinda crazy. Love the new hybrid reverb and the inspired by nature pack. The random button on all their devices is awesome too.

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so is it actually possible to control warp markers via push now?

Everything should remain compatible with previous versions. The new functions accessible through the API use a new syntax and the old ones are left untouched.

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I heard from a lot of people that Ableton has a “baseline” of 30% on M1 but never the less works flawlessly – maybe it’s this?

Yeah, it’s kinda strange. You can drop a single instance of a drum rack on a track and it hits 30% but then add like 6 more and it barely moves. It’s just a little unnerving seeing it hit that with such a simple small device. On my 9 yr old MacBook Air the cpu meter barely comes off of base when using the same drum rack.

I partially would blame Ableton, as their developers (as the rest of that community) received enough information and development kits for the transition to Apple Silicon more than six months ago… I don’t really understand why music tech companies are almost always the last ones to adopt innovations and to keep pace with the tech industry (I’m looking at you Elektron Overbridge)

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Got access to the Beta today … lots of great improvements and the new devices are cool ( hydrid reverb and spectral delay especially ). The redesigns on some of the older devices are also welcome ( Collision and Redux in particular )

But it’s that small new tab in the expression control device that got me the more excited … 6 random values synchronized with the note input …

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Not to speek of my macbook’s fan starting to blow as fast as they can as soon as Ableton has booted. 16" 2019… thanks Intel + Ableton!

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I got in yesterday after waiting 2 1/2 months. Already found a few bugs and reported them. They should have let me in sooner :joy:

Lots of great new devices and interfaces in version 11.

All of the spectral stuff is really awesome, along with the updated chorus and phaser/flanger.

Hybrid reverb sounds really good but I haven’t spent much time with it yet.

Collision’s new GUI is much more inviting than the old one.

There are also some interesting new Max devices lurking in the pile. Im liking the update so far after using it for only a couple of hours.

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