A question to Cirklon owners re: purchasing

love this feature. makes it so easy to just build and build from one scene or another. Cirklon just auto-renames the new one, tacks it onto the end of the song in progress, and lets you keep at it.

thought one of my favorite features would be the instrument list, but I’m finding new stuff to love all the time. but I DO love the instrument list. I used to sequence with the OT and had to rely on a big chart to reference which midi channel to access which machine I wanted to sequence. PAINFUL. now I just choose the name from the list and go.

and how about that CVIO setup…? calibrating all your synths with a tuner while you just turn the offset up and down within the CVIO configuration until its in tune…? bliss.

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calibrating all your synths with a tuner while you just turn the offset up and down within the CVIO configuration until its in tune…? bliss.

^ this. It makes dealing with pesky fiddle analog oscillators a breeze.

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love this feature. makes it so easy to just build and build from one scene or another. Cirklon just auto-renames the new one, tacks it onto the end of the song in progress, and lets you keep at it.

cirklon lets you cue up scenes that you can jam around with until you are ready to jump over to the next scene.

the thing that I like about the song mode on the cirklon is that while the song is playing I can use the performance knobs on my synths/eurorack instead of babysitting the sequencer. it’s also very obvious which instruments are playing in a given scene. that wasn’t obvious on the Squarp in its Sequence mode.

The one thing the Squarp Pyramid has over the cirklon is that its very easy to learn in its entirety. I can’t say that about the Cirklon

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Do scenes have to finish before you can jump. Or can you insta jump?

I guess you could set GBar and Scene Length to 1 (step). maybe there’s a cleaner way though…?

I think that depends upon how you set it up and use it. like I’ll always just start at the first track and use whichever instrument I feel like at the moment, and then add more in that manner to track 2, 3, etc… I remember the layout while I’m working on the track, but if I jump between songs, I have no idea what’s what. but…that’s kind of on me. I should use the same track for given a instrument, for every song.

You can insta jump but not to middle of another scene, it just starts the next scene.

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GAH…listening to him talk about speed of data, midi vs audio is killing me.
I LOVE sync :sweat:

I think Id have to get the cv board and get a snake for CV…DROOL!

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I always thought that basically was a song mode.
I pretty much record everything in Pyramids Live mode, beginning to end, nudge it a bit. Instant song. :wink:

Its not a song mode though. They don’t even call it a song mode, its is, however, useful for jamming and performance!

It’s called Song Play Mode.

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It’s not, it’s called Sequence Mode. which is Akin to the Cirklons scenes.

Sequence mode on the Squarp works differently and is based on mute states of patterns tied to an instrument.

https://squarp.net/overview

On the Cirklon you have many patterns tied to a channel/step or whatever. A scene is many tracks, each track is one track( current pattern + 1 current fill pattern + a mute state). So when you transition from scene to scene. the main and fill patterns could be different and the mutes can be different.

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Sorry, my reply related to Cirklon. Crossed wires.

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I get what you’re saying now. I’m still annoyed by the way you have to put a sequence together in pyramid, which is why I mostly (midi)record everything in Live mode. It should be way simpler like the Cirklon. But remind me, isn’t there a limit to the length of live recording in the Cirklon? I do enjoy my half hour live cacophonies.

The limit for p3 patters is 16 bars, limit for ck patterns is 255. Once you hit the limit, they begin to loop.

I’ve never run into that issue, lol, and had to go to my cirklon to check out the physical limit. If you have a scene that’s a half-hour long, that’s long! :slight_smile:

I don’t really do too much live playing into the cirklon. It’s mostly hand sequenced. I really leverage Intertrack events and aux events to create variety in the tracks I try to create.

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255 bars is good. That’s like 6 (or12) pages of sheet music.

If you hold LAST and instead of turning the dial right as you usually would to increase length of the pattern, turn it left and it sets the pattern length to INF. I use it often to try out ideas, and copy the parts I like to a new pattern/start of the pattern, and then decide on pattern length. Although perhaps this is still limited to 255, I haven’t checked… Great for quickly making a new pattern, extending length, and immediately start recording.

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dude…c’mon.

yer seriously taking what I thought would be a non issue. waiting a few years for one. and turning it into a nightmare.

I never even thought to turn it left!

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I stand corrected. Apparently, you can set each pattern to infinite length, I just didn’t know how. Thanks @dave_angel!

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change your name to Zoolander immediately

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