Maschine MK3 and Kontrol Mk2

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OFF topic but I used to have a Doraemon keychain that would respond when you whistle to it. It would say “im here” In Japanese and it was adorable

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This new MK3 looks awesome and has me considering moving into maschine world again. I wonder if I really need that shiny new MK3 though, maybe I could score a good deal on a MK2 or Studio… would I really be missing out on that much?

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Don’t quote me on it but pretty sure they will run the same software.
It seems mainly cosmetic enhancements, the new color screens look awesome, and now has a built in audio interface

What’s a reasonable price (US $) for a used maschine studio these days?

I wish they would go ahead and make a standalone Maschine

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Much cheaper as of today :wink:

Hey I bought the white studio from you over a year ago. Thanks that Maschine rocks. I see you’re joining team Maschine again :grin:

It’ll be next year minimum before K12 appears I reckon. K11 is only just a year old and NI have a habit of spacing their releases.

I think some folks are confusing “standalone mode” to a standalone device here though! I don’t think anyone should be expecting NI to release a standalone Maschine any time soon (if ever). But, getting audio tracks into the MAschine software is still a very big deal for me. While Ableton can do a hell of a lot more than Maschine in many regards, I typically dont use the features so any big step in an Ableton direction that Maschine takes makes it a far improved and feature rich experience for me.

Going to be an interesting couple of months with Loop coming. Im going to sit back and see what comes out of that before taking the plunge (or not) on these new controllers.

To me comparing the price of the KOMPLETE KONTROL i would prefer a maschine MK3 + Roli Seaboard Rise… Definitely something armed for the futur regarding feeling when playing… and modulations capabilities… No need for a tagged library if you design your sounds :slight_smile:

I said it before - the NI Machine beta software can have multiple midi scenes, which you can X-fade, this works for VST and for external midi devices. You can also set the time interval which is used to x-fade the midi CC vales. Its what octatrack should do. I still hope electron will do a proper Octatrack upgrade soon.

At least NI supports their devices for a long time.

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The usual GAS… :slight_smile:

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I think the only thing elektron can learn about native Instruments:
Release date : october fifth
And I know from experience they will have it in the stores at the fifth
And preorders get one on october 1st

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I used maschine for years, went to elektron amd tried maschine again last summer. Then I was very disappointed about the sound… I use this komplete audio soundcard… with the volume knob on top.

With this new mk3, in the presentaties they say the soundcard is mainly for live use or beginner producer.

Is it the soundcard that makes my maschine sound flat?

I love to make music, I love elektron for its workflow, But also for its instant good sound…
Can I have the same sound experience as I.e. The Digitakt on the maschine?

What soundcard are you using now?

What samplerate? Please use 96k if possible. Even when you sample vinyl on 96k you get more detail and with a flat soundcard you can figure out other details of the record you’re messing with.

Are you using Maschine in standalone?

Do you ever use the maschine internal compressor and put it on “Vintage” mode with a low compression setting on the master buss in standalone mode? Slowly drop the threshold and you can dial in a nice sound where all the elements are glued together. It’s Lit!

Do you have any compressor at the master buss on Maschine?

Sorry to say, but that’s just not true. 96khz isn’t a necessity at all.
Good DA (and AD for recording) converters are way more important to get a good clean signal to your monitor speakers. 48khz is sufficient for producing electronic music.

Maschine doesn’t have a bad sound itself. The software sound engine is fine. Just make sure you don’t produce at 44.1khz. :slight_smile:

Audio Converters
A/D Channels,
D/A Channels 4, 4
Sample Rates 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 kHz
Bit Resolution 16, 24 Bit

Inputs 1/2
(A/D-D/A to Output*) Line Instrument Mic
Input Impedance 44 kOhm, balanced 1 MOhm, unbalanced 3.4 kOhm, balanced
Full-Scale Input Level @ max. Gain -4 dBu -9.7 dBu -36 dBu
Maximum Input Level +14.3 dBu +8.4 dBu 0 dBu
Gain -inf … +15 dB -inf … +21 dB +11 dB … +47 dB
Dynamic Range @ Unity Gain 98.3 dB (A) 98.3 dB (A) 98.0 dB (A)
THD+N (Full-Scale Level, Unity Gain) 0.013 % 0.013 % 0.013 %
Frequency Response(96 kHz), -1 dB 13 Hz - 42 kHz 12 Hz - 42 kHz 13 Hz - 45 kHz
Equivalent Input Noise @ Max. Gain — — -127.5 dBu (A)

Inputs 3/4
(A/D-D/A toOutput*)
Input Impedance 44 kOhm, balanced
Full-Scale Input Level +12 dBu
Gain -1 dB
Dynamic Range 98.5 dB (A)
THD+N (Full-Scale Level) 0.013 %
Frequency Response (96 kHz), -1 dB 12 Hz - 43 kHz

Line Outputs (D/A)
Full Scale Output Level @ Max. Volume +11 dBu
Dynamic Range @ Max. Volume 102 dB (A)
THD+N 1/2: 0.01%, 3/4: 0.02%
Frequency Response (96 kHz), -1 dB 10 Hz - 45 kHz

Headphone Output
Maximum Output Level (High Impedance) +12 dBu, 3.0 Vrms
Maximum Output Power 20 mW @ 100 Ohms, 11 mW @ 33 Ohms
Dynamic Range 102 dB (A)
THD+N @ Max Level, 100 Ohms 0.014%
Frequency Response (96 kHz), -1 dB 9 Hz - 45 kHz

Digital I/O 2 channels (5/6), SPDIF in/out, coaxial


I think these specs look good
but when I turn it on with maschine (inside ableton or ‘standalone’, so just maschine)
i just turn it off and take my elektron gear again.
I hate the ‘flat’ sound…

Bro what about recording at 96k and messing with DSP effects at 96k? Am i wasting disk space? Should I record my vinyl and drum machines in 48k and mix in 96k?

Agreed on 44.1 though. We’re still stuck in the 80s-90s at times.

For playing back audio 44.1khz is perfectly fine. There’s not a single reason to go beyond that.

For recording/production purposes this is of course different. And there’s tons to be found on the debate 96khz vs 48khz on the web. Some people swear by 96khz, I myself find it a waste of space. Things like proper gain staging, proper eqing etc. Has way more impact on sound quality.

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I guess 98 % of the people here would not hear any difference between the sampling of 96khz and 44.1khz. And your audience for your music you create even less . the youth people ears are already damaged a lot by listen all day music too loud with mp3 and smartphone players.