Yet more Korg goodies

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[quote=“Naboo”][quote=" lemurman"][quote=“Naboo”]Looks very plasticky. The MX was built like a tank, so hopefully won’t feel as cheap as it looks.
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Specs says it’s zinc die cast chassis. [/quote]
Sweet :+1: [/quote]
by “chassis” they mean the whole enclosure or just the floor of the machine?[/quote]
Good point. It may just be referring to an internal frame, not the enclosure.

c´mon…can´t you replace the battery of your cell phone?
anyway, thanks for the tip about this new NiNH ones[/quote]
The OP-1 battery is a little disappointing, because when it has reached the end of its life you will have to send it off to TE for a replacement (every 5-6 years). It should be more like a mobile phone battery…user removable/replaceable. You can add years to battery life by removing it and using the power supply when in at home or in a studio or wherever. Unfortunately it is constantly in use, thus shortening its life. [/quote]
yes, I mean the kind of battery that you just charge using a regular charger and keeping it inside the device

Quite tempted by the Electribes but curious how they sound up against Gadget. The export to Live looks like an absolutely brilliant feature. Was shown over at the Audiobus forum that it works really well with Gadget anyway.

that basically wraps up the topic of korg goodies…

Take a spare cable when you gig?[/quote]
…if you can easily get hold of spares I guess.

I think this is a solid lineup of new products for Korg, but I don’t see how the Electribe Sampler or the Volca Sampler is a threat to the Octatrack.

I’m guessing most people shopping for a $400 sampler are not going to be interested in the Octatrack anyway. And most people who shop for an Octatrack are presumably those who are ready for something that delivers more than a $400 sampler can.

Korg is finding the sweet spot with these “toys” which all sound better than the Electribes of old, but are somehow all a bit limited. If I didn’t own Elektrons, I’d probably be looking at the new Korgs, but I can’t get interested in any of these when there’s an OT and MD and AR to play with. My last Korg was the Monotribe…

I’m tempted to get one of the electribes instead of a Rytm. Less than 1/4 the price and runs on batteries.
It’s either Electribe + my existing DRM1mkii or sell the DRM1 save some money and get the Rytm. Hmm

the electribe sampler looks cool. the only way i see it killing the octatrack is for users who need the integration w/ ableton like that. it’s a GREAT feature.

Regardless of your position on the toy-vs-pro debate, it does look like:

  1. The new Electribes will likely do a better job sequencing outboard MIDI gear than the utter lack of anything even remotely resembling MIDI output on all of the Analog range.
  2. The new Electribes are probably going to have a lot nicer pads than the stiff unresponsive shit we got on our oh-so-pro RYTMs.

i don’t believe the electribe sampler is a threat to the Octatrack for the following reasons (and maybe more):

  • less audio in/outputs

  • no from-card streaming (yet?)

  • integration with ableton, ok, nice, but it’s only one way. for example: how do you put a 4bar scene pre-edited in ableton in there? chop everything into single shots first (you only have 270 sec sample time), then reprogram the steps on the electribe? am i missing something here? of course i am - it’s my admittedly snobby dogma of not wanting to have a laptop on stage and still be able to handle large audio files in a live situation.
    if i want to put an ableton scene on the OT, i just bounce a scene’s tracks into separate files and put those loops on the OT. it takes a while on the OT side, but it’s a few steps less than the single-shot route you had to go on ESXs or the smaller MPCs. Conversely, if i want to record something into Ableton from OT, it takes about 30sec to set up a loop for individual track recording, another 5min to record it into Ableton, on the grid and ready for further editing.

  • will it do motion sequencing for external gear? (OT does, important if you use stuff like nord drum 2 or TR-8 live)

  • it’s less than half the price, so if you don’t need OT’s “deck” functionality, nor its possibilities as a midi/audio hub… go for it.

  • and personally, i would miss the OT’s crossfader very, very much

The only threat to the Octatrack is the continuing unavailability of the Octatrack. :wink:

Actually, right now you can only order Analog boxes directly from Elektron. All other products are currently unavailable.

yes i noticed when registering my AR, OT seems to have gone extinct…
(no final verdict on the AR yet, but so far its quite…umm – simple and immediate, jam-ready, compared to the OT, but no idea if it will stand up to a combo of the two new electribes…)

I think the AR will stand up to whatever digital box for a long time in terms of raw sound sculpting and modulation abilities.

But yeah, it looks like these Electribes will offer a hell of a lot of live performance and hands-on production value at this price point. I’ll certainly give one a go when they become available.

yep. i currently have an order placed for both an octatrack and machinedrum to join my analog four, but i am currently wondering if i should cancel the order and wait for the new electribes. it is unclear when i will receive the elektron machines.

Good point. It may just be referring to an internal frame, not the enclosure.[/quote]
Most unlikely, You can safely assume it refers to the entire casing.

I personally am interested in the synth - lots of filter models, battery power, handy arranger, and the same 2x8 pad arrangement that I like very much on the Tempest. I’m sure the pads are not as good but having used a Korg PadKontrol before I thought they were quite adequate. I also like the ‘play to scale’ feature on the touchpad, seems like a handy little melody tool. Not really interested in the sampling as I have the OT, but the synth version is like a simple VA for cheap.

I like the ability to record simple arrangements and export to Live as well. I often with the OT or MD could just record your jams, the song/arranger mode isn’t that much fun.

I’ll be picking up the volca sample
let’s see how the analog side of things sounds
don’t know why they didn’t just include an analog filter

the previous ones does…they send CC for each parameter you automate…and you can edit the CC map for any parameter wich is very cool

i’ll probably pick up a volca sample, even with an octatrack. i’m thinking about it more as a way to level up my phone, i’ll tape it to the bottom or something haha. sunvox is great. if it works okay it’ll do more what i’d be into an op1 for.

with the iOS integration it should be a good portable recorder using the phones’s mic. touch screen to trim samples is one of the only things i like touch screens for. have to wait and see how the app is. using an 1/8th cable to transfer samples seems like good move to avoid apple connector compatibly, so it should work okay with older cheaper iOS stuff. guess it’s digitally converted? should be hackable. :slight_smile: might be slooow? :neutral_face:

lot of stuff to just wait and see tho. will it be able do bi-directional midi at the same time? hopefully resampling standalone? pitch change range seems good. wonder if the sync out based on bpm or is it hopefully based on a certain slot being triggered? i hope they kept a lot of the nice usability features from the microsampler, same designer, this seems like a better form factor to me.

oh the only thing weird to me is the new mini kaoss pad 2 , in that it can’t transfer with iOS or better directly to the volca sampler and no midi/sync for tempo based effects. it’d be a really nice combination if it could do that stuff. imo seems odd to make that the only one with sd recording, so it’d pair up well with any of them and then leave that stuff out.

I love my almost dead ESX. I was waiting for OT avaliability in the store to purchase a replacement to my ESX1 with OT+A4, and just saw this thread. WOW! I only need to spend now 400€ vs 2400€. Sure, OT can do more things and some live sampling… but I only use basic things to do music, it’s enough for me having 8 drum tracks and 3-4 synth tracks, with some sampling and a delay, but with an excellent workflow.

I’d love having a similar machine from Elektron and would pay twice the price, but that is not how Elektron works, they do machines for specific roles, like drums or synth.

However I need more info about the new Electribe workflow before choosing it vs the OT+A4 combo.