No -, i’d be quite annoyed if it had a keyboard, wouldn’t fit in a backpack, went by the name of Octatrack Keys, and cost 1700€… Even then, i would probably be trying it on in the mirror.
No offense to you MiniDX personally, cause I don´t know you, but I´m totally pissed by all this speculations about overbridge last week, OT MK2, all this whiners, which think they can build a better OT, I´m also pissed by the idea of jjos for OT, I´m fed up with “everything must be open source” “music for free, all must be free and the companies that build musical instruments could do it just for the fame” all these “daddy pays my studying and my instruments and I want overbridge in my future OT before my daddy buys one for me, so elektron make it happen”. Yes I´m angry about the way this forum evolves and I miss e-u, cause it was a better place with better people. So if you ask me, what I think, it would be just buy an octatrack, read the manual, learn this wonderful instrument and all-important go offline. This is what I do for now, hoping there will be better times in this forum.
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No offense to you MiniDX personally, cause I don´t know you, but I´m totally pissed by all this speculations about overbridge last week, OT MK2, all this whiners, which think they can build a better OT, I´m also pissed by the idea of jjos for OT, I´m fed up with “everything must be open source” “music for free, all must be free and the companies that build musical instruments could do it just for the fame” all these “daddy pays my studying and my instruments and I want overbridge in my future OT before my daddy buys one for me, so elektron make it happen”. Yes I´m angry about the way this forum evolves and I miss e-u, cause it was a better place with better people. So if you ask me, what I think, it would be just buy an octatrack, read the manual, learn this wonderful instrument and all-important go offline. This is what I do for now, hoping there will be better times in this forum.
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I understand but anyways, i’m not whining, nor flaming the mk1, nor flaming the elektron for the latest update, nor speculating on anything.
I’m asking if you would feel betrayed if an octatrack overbridge-ready would be released, or if you think this would be a good move for both existing users and new users, since it could help the first OT as well to get even more updates, as the only difference would be about overbridge.
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+1
I dunno maybe it’s cos I’m kinda old but I definitely approach the gear I buy with the mindset of “wellp, I better sit down with a beer and read the manual and figure out how this thing works”
a lot of the time the gear doesn’t function in exactly the way I envisioned it so I either adapt or sell it simple as that. A recent instance of this was that I honestly didn’t care for the sound of the A4 so I sold it and it was no big deal.
I cant imagine a case where I’d get worked up enough to post “Waaaaaah i spent all this money and it’s useless, WTF Elektron? YOU OWE ME!!!” that shit is nuts and I don’t think any company anywhere would be well served to pay attention to those kind of posts.
The money you spent doesn’t entitle you to anything beyond use of the product you bought. If you don’t like it sell it and move on.
I think Elektron is unique in that in the past they have listened to customer feedback but as a result i think that the expectations are getting way outta hand. Not every idea that gets thrown up on the forum is feasible and fewer still are even good ideas.
Hate to say it but there are times it feels like Elektron users are rapidly becoming the weaboos of music gear.
Bit of a pointless thread given that Elektron went out of their way to express on another thread that they will not produce an Octatrack with overbridge. So it really is just another way to stir things up instead of dealing with the ins and outs and the realistic aspirations for the current machine. Each to their own but what’s to be gained from this #rhetorical
[/b]…an octatrack with overbridge compatibility in 2015 ?
Nope, won’t happen. I don’t see Elektron releasing any kind of new machine anytime soon at all. That said,…
…exisring users…
This existing user bought his Octatrack and made that decision based on what was confirmed it could actually do at the time I bought it, at the price I thought it was worth it doing what it could do then. Not at the premise of some remote possibility in the future. Therefore I will not be pissed at all if Elektron would release some updated model and will not be regretting my purchase, since I made the deliberate decision to buy the OT as it was. It’s all part of the game of progress.
I miss that mindset sometimes in consumers.
By the way, the OT is still a unique product and was groundbreaking at the time for a piece of hardware. I have seen loads of people happily making fantastic music with it, not bothered by its many shortcomings.
[b]dust ward wrote:
[/b]The money you spent doesn’t entitle you to anything beyond use of the product you bought. If you don’t like it sell it and move on.
This.
[b]MiniDX wrote:
[/b]I understand but anyways, i’m not whining, nor flaming the mk1, nor flaming the elektron for the latest update, nor speculating on anything.
Still, you seem to try to stir a bit of sensation, solliciting dramatic responses. Bit pointless.
Would I like the OT to have Overbridge? Sure. Would I be pissed off if they released a new one next year that had it? I’d be slightly annoyed only because I’ve only had mine a few months, but Overbridge wasn’t announced until after I bought my OT, and I bought it based on the specs it had. That annoyance is on me, and I’d either keep using it or trade up for the new model eventually. Either way, I love the Octatrack.
I got an Octatrack in pursuit of getting away from the computer.
It’s been everything I hoped it would be.
So no, it wouldn’t effect me emotionally.
If Overbridge turned out to be vaporware, it would mean nothing to me.
Lets say Elektron released an OT MKII tomorrow with 8 inputs and 12 outs, and all the bugs (which I have yet to experience) were fixed, plus Overbridge, for $800
All that would do is make me excited to get one.
I want to have a option to upgrade to OT Overbridge or a next generation of OT!
But… I think that it was not really clever to announce Overbridge on Messe 2014. Just because of the Roland Aira… So now stressing to get Overbridge ready before Namm 2015 for such a small company. It’s more likely that Elektron is going back to work on the OS of OT after Messe2015…
It’s easy to say that the OT will not get Overbridge… A hardware upgrade is not so difficult but the OS of OT seems to different compared with the Analog series. I don’t believe they have the manpower to get this right for now…
No, because overbridge (afaik) serves no purpose to me since I BOUGHT THE OCTATRACK FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING AWAY FROM COMPUTERS. I can’t be alone in this notion…
I spent a lot of money on it and I’ll be damned if some sneaky company has a designed obsolescence scheme to keep me from enjoying the products that serve me best. Elektron have been super cool and considerate whenever I’ve dealt with them and they don’t seem to be the kind of people to “screw” their userbase out of more money anyway - they seem to be less businessmen than they are enthusiasts.
I figure this machine will give me many, many years of service considering what it does, what I am still learning, and what it might be able to do in the future. Who cares what else they release? People still love the MD and MnM even though there are other newer products available…
Not pissed if a mk2 appears, that’s just the way things go in the electronics land.
I would be slightly pissed if that meant no further development of the mk1 OS though. There are a few major things I’d like to see addressed, that would turn a good machine into a great one.
Overbridge is a way for Elektron to make their analog gear more attractive for people who mostly live in a DAW because it allows these people to integrate analog gear without having to change their workflow.
Sure, these people could use VA plugins to get pretty damn close to the same sound as real analog circuitry, but let’s not have that discussion here; there clearly is a market for the “real thing”.
The OT offers absolutely nothing new these people can’t already do or get in their DAW today. Nobody who primarily uses a DAW today will look at the OT thinking she would like to get “those sounds”, while this is much more likely for the A4/AK and the RYTM.
Put differently, the OT makes sense primarily as a stand-alone instrument outside the context of a computer-based studio workflow, while the analog series also make sense while used as sound sources (“MIDI expander”) only without ever touching their control surfaces.
I totally believe Elektron when they say that the current OT lacks the hardware to do something like Overbridge, but I’m also sure they won’t do a MkII just to add it because the market just isn’t there.
…don’t know what it was like, back in the days…but i can feel you, m8…
i’m new to swedish hardware…
but…
sustainability and nerdyness seems mostly, what makes elektron the company it is…
there won’t be an octatrack mk2…i’m pretty sure about that…
if we’re talking tradition. here, they’ll find other ways to improve what we already got…
and whatsoever…
the only thing that is no speculation here is one little fact…even in years from now, i will still discover new tricks, new skills, new sounds and new ways to go…
on my ooooooold octatrack by then…
The sad thing about the average Elektronaut forum member. No room for a good discussion only personal opinions, how ignorant is that…
Technology is always evolving if you like it or not! Look at the history of sampling, so embrace new possibilities!
And please stop whining about “I spent a lot of money”. The OT is almost 5 years old! Back in the days I bought a Akai S1100 brand new for a lot of money! And what to think about those people who started with Fairlight, Synclavier or PPG’s. Those where really expensive!
