Workflow.. Using Patterns or Scenes for main variations?

nukage · 2013-11-25T21:38:24.000Z

I just got my octatrack the other day, I did quite a bit of research while I was waiting for it to arrive, watched all the video tutorials, reviews I could find and I got up and running with my first track within my first day and I was resampling external gear by day 2… my question comes from the way I’ve been using scenes. I basically want to create variations on my patterns by changing parameters, which is exactly what scenes do. The problem is, it seems like from a workflow perspective I should be creating the main variations of my song using patterns instead of scenes since they can be quantized changes, and use scenes more for creating fills and more drastic changes similar to how I might use effects while DJing. So if I have created a bunch of different changes to my track’s parameters using scenes, is it possible to copy these parameter changes to P-Locks in patterns somehow?

So right now I have a scene where my bass is clean, a scene where my bass has an LFO on the filter and a distortion, a scene where it has a different LFO to create a trance gate type effect on the volume, etc. I really want these 3 variations on the bass to be different patterns… but in order to do that, I need to create P-Locks, but not only to I need to create P-locks in the scene, I also need to add them to every single trig in the pattern if I want to keep those settings throughout the pattern… right? I suppose I could just use another Part, but it seems like it really should be fine to do this in the same part since I can already do it with scenes. Or is there a way to p-lock every single trig at once? It seems very tedious…

Same thing with sample locks, if I want to change the sample to the same sample for all my trig’s, do I need to manually set it for each trig manually (or copy/paste each trig)? It would be cool if you could somehow record parameter changes via crossfading scenes into p-locks… or maybe you can?

Lemajik · 2013-11-25T22:39:35.000Z

i have been asking myself somewhat similar question. And got nowhere. I still sample lock all the triggs and copy and paste them. Got used to that quite quick. But still i understand your burden with doing it all manually. I don’t think it is possible to change them all at once. It seams reasonable when playing live… Not to get errors. For example i use many sounds on one channel only. And that would just get lost if i tried to change them all. But when working i do miss that to Applying the scene parameters to samples like p-lock live recording the crossfader is impossible. As far as i know…

You can achieve much similar stuff with parts. Which come in handy in this situation. But that is more programing again… And more programing gets you more joy when playing live.

gbravetti · 2013-11-25T23:50:41.000Z

I think that you can use the Arranger to assign Scenes to Patterns, in this way you can have 3 rows with the same Pattern but each with a different scene.

For live usage you can create endless loops, or 64x reps, then you can jump from rows manually using Arrows+Yes button.