Why should I pick Digitakt 2 over Tonverk?

This is the one crumb of slight intrigue still around Digitakt for me. The main area that Tonverk (at least theoretically) does have over DT that it feels like a one stop shop for the most part, once you feed it some material. So it could be longer loops, one shots, drum kits, but also the MIDI for external gear, all with polyphony, plus the ability to recall the FX. In a funny way I’d almost compare it to Ableton, because while TV is undeniably complex, it’s also more direct than a DAW even with all its bells and whistles. I guess that’s still the big appeal of DT because it’s even more streamlined though.

Interested in that workflow as I’ve hooked up my phone a few times. Any particular apps you’re running on the phone that are working well with TV?

Yeah don’t understand that assertion either.

I have got DN2 hooked up but even that’s not necessary to make complete tracks.

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Obviously not him, but on android you have Imaginando DRC (wicked good) and Koala (the absolute best music app bar none).
On IOS you’ve got too many good auv3’s to list here…

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tbh I haven’t used my phone yet, but it’s next on my list to add an extra layer to my stuff. I’m planning to just use it’s stock voice recorder app as a field recorder, and YouTube. what kinda apps were you thinking about using?

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I was wondering about sequencing some of those synth apps like King Digital potentially. I picked a bunch up for peanuts, I’ve hooked it up but not since the MIDI/USB thing was fixed so need to have another play. Also hooked it up to Koala as well.

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it depends what you want to do or make.

if you want multitrack over usb (overbridge). small form factor. less complexity. less expense. timestretching. slice mode … and so on, then get a DTII.

let us know how you get on with the usb sync and that

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I don’t own TV but can vouch for the DTII being an incredible design. It’s so intuitive and I feel leads to creative choices just in the way it works, it’s top tier imo.

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I feel like the answer to the question is pretty clear tbh.

You choose DT if you want a sampler.
You choose TV if you want a multisample FX machine.

They aren’t directly comparable in my eyes.

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I don’t do much sampling but would like the opportunity if need be, also like to have all sorts of multisampled sounds, including pianos, synths, weird eurorack sounds…therefore Tonverk for me is perfect. Need to sell everything to get one though…ugh.

I don’t think it’ll be that cut and dry for most people.
What if you want a poly sampler with FX that can also handle time stretching and slicing? Or access to multi sampling but also individual outputs for all channels?

I haven’t done a poll on this or anything but I have to imagine most people’s needs will overlap with both devices.

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Then you probably need an MPC :joy:

Yes there is the send effect limitation, which is quite big. Also if OB comes to Tonverk I’m quite sure subtracks will not be recorded individually. With preference for Octa do you mean having Static Machines as an option or? Just out of interest

Using static or flex machine but you gain a host of insert effects and a bunch of other wild shiz.

I think that TV looks like a very cool machine, and will no doubt grow into something quite special, but it’d probably be my 4th choice for a drum machine from Elektron (possibly even 5th or 6th…). I think it excells in other areas, or of course as a machine that can include drums but wouldn’t be something I use dedicated to that task.

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Yes it seems like it’s not meant to be The drum machine in the roster but in the end of the day anything Elektron can be a killer drum machine. I have always liked Tempest style drum machines where the line between drums and synth voices/drones etc are blurred and TV could be a beast for that

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I think the Tonverk’s subtracks can potentially make it the best Elektron device for sampled percussion if they can implement a smooth way to play round-robin samples, route individual sounds to send FX, and maybe even slicing to the pads. The synced granular engine can be used in interesting/unique ways to manipulate percussion samples on the Tonverk as well.

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me too, love that sh*t :fire:

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DT1 = sick weirdo box full of limitations that forces you to be as cunning as you can to make it shine. Makes you think as an ‘artist’. Seems simple for normies that look for full blown list of features, like options on your smartphone or washing machine, or fridge, but in fact is not simple at all.

DT2 = even more sick weirdo box if used in DT1 logic, but is much more friendly to ‘normies’ approach and the limitations can be easily ignored

TV = is it even more sick box? IDK, time will tell (maybe will try it later, but currently I’m happy with both DT1 and DT2 and make different material on them) but the list of options takes it even closer to ‘classic’ ways of setting things up in a DAW

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because the DT2 is god

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