Why call it a SOUNDPACK when it's a SAMPLE pack!?

If it’s just samples, then yes it should just be called a ‘sample pack’.
If it has patches, presets, sounds, whatever you want to call them, for an individual device, then it could be called a ‘sound pack’

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In fact, loading a new project automatically attribute a kit (sound to every track) on every pattern
. So attributing a sample to any of those sound will keep all the parameters of that one track sound.
What I want is an empty track, with default parameters on which I can import a sample to create a sound from scratch: AN EMPTY TRACK.
Is it possible?

It’s not attributing a kit, it just loads the first 8 sample slots with the digital drum factory samples. The eight tracks will always load the first 8 sample slots.

To get completely empty project , load a new project.
Go into system, select samples.
Press the left arrow key and select view ram.
In the ram press the right arrow key, select all, and then unload.
This will clear the project ram, giving you a completely empty project.

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I have to admit I did find this a little frustrating when I bought my first “sound packs” for rytm as I was assuming these would have presets for the analog voices overlayed with samples and from this I could reverse engineer and learn to use the rytm better… alas

But Digitakt is just a sampler is it not? Does it have its own digital voices? Or is it entirely sample based?

The rytm sound packs are a mixed bag of presets and samples, depending which one you get.

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Hmmm which ones have presets? I have a lot of them and thought they where all samples…

Off the top of my head, New blood is one that is presets only. It’s also free. The dalek one has some presets in it too o believe along with samples.

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I don’t get this…

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I’m going to double down on the fact that in Elektron terminology a SOUND is not a SAMPLE, so the OP makes a valid point, why not call them what the manual calls them? It would avoid confusion for new users but more importantly aligns with Elektron terminology and is the logical thing to do.

Sure the point that the description mentions samples is valid, and one could also argue the point that in a broader sense a sample is a sound - still I think that the actual product description should make it clear if only to make the distinction between the two terms, because they do sell both sample and sound packs, and in the case of Rytm packs it has the potential to cause confusion since some packs contain both as already mentioned.

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I think they’re called “soundpacks” out of necessity.

In the most pure sense, OP and you are absolutely right- I think, for the website, it’s vital to keep them all in the same section to:

  • keep the emphasis of their page on the equipment they make

  • to market their other equipment by the different sounds capable

Further to the OPs point, I can only speculate why the Digitakt soundpacks don’t have custom designed sounds- maybe it’s to ensure the simplicity in utilizing them(if it came with legit presets, then purchasing the soundpacks would feel like a frustrating endeavor(not to mention it would only be accessible through the loaded project)(also, accessing presets is sorta an advanced feature of the digitakt(comparatively))

IMO the description of the content is explicit.
Isn’t it?

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Certainly, personally it does not confuse me either. However the fact that one customer has erroneously purchased a pack and the possibilities that this has happened before and might again in the future, leads me to think that it would be clearer if the actual title made the distinction between sound pack, sample pack or (in case of Rytm packs which contain both) sample and soundpack.

I think sometimes it is easy to assume that this kind of thing might be common knowledge, especially for seasoned users of Elektron gear and Elektron themselves, but to a newcomer it might be misleading, I think that clarity is never a bad thing is all I’m saying :thup:

Edit: @Ryan Yes I think to keep them all in the same section (even under the heading of soundpacks, although perhaps ‘content’ would be a better term) is fine, and makes them easy for visitors to find.

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We would totally be friends if we were in the same vicinity. Fact.

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Why do we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?

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… Either way. Its folders not packs.

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Elektron clearly states what each Soundpack contains in the description.

I believe op said they didn’t make a purchase but was using free/demo soundpacks.

Another person who fell foul of the confusing nomenclature File management. Sounds, kits, projects

theres a thread like this every week or so for much of the gear , if anyone has to search/scroll for too long and its not obvious theres another new thread created.

its fair enough in many respects … elektron gear is a bit complicated , using much of its own terminology and even reading the manuals might not always help.

The problem is that I’m very new to Elektron machines. I’ve picked up 6 of the machines in a matter of months. Information overload.

Also, the 2nd party sound vendors are calling them sound packs. I assumed they were layering sample on top of analog.

They also did not create sysex for sounds. Apparently, I need to save this myself. Strange.

Finally, one company did the sysex wrong or it’s outdated (maybe for an older firmware) and none of the samples loaded to the kits correctly. I’m still trying to sort this out.

I’m reading the manual and it all makes sense again. Jumping around from an OT, Digitakt, Digitone, a4, ak and Rytm makes it a bit confusing at times.