When your dream synth doesn't sound great against your other gear

Sorry Grim didn’t see your reply now I’m doubling up!

Bit of Sunday morning analog latency on my own part.

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Ah okay, ta muchly!

Its funny, when I created the thread, I didn’t expect it to get all this action. I think it took a direction of its own due to some miscommunication on my part - I’ll state for the record one last time that my OP was meant to be about saving a long time for this one special synth, that when you get it, you’re not sure about its overall character. I appreciate the mix discussion very much (I think its always helpful) BUT, I am actually quite satisfied with my mix decisions and finished pieces including those using the P12. The P12 does have a very specific character though, which is what I’m on the fence about. That is all.

That said, I think there are a ton of awesome comments in this thread regarding mix decisions - please carry on! :slight_smile: (oh, and if anyone wants to continue with the discussion I’d originally hoped for regarding bad-ass polysynth options, I’m still all ears.)

The P12 may just stay though, because I can’t deny that every time I turn it on, something amazing comes out. I’ve been using it for abt 6 months, but I think I still need some time to make a decision on it.

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Been listening to some demoes and i feel it definitely seems to have some sort of character that exists across very different patches!

Yes, a kind of hi-rez super-fine grain. Hard to describe. Cool in isolation, hard to dial out when that’s not what you want. Very alive and unique sounding synth though.

Yes, it often sound huge - i particularly like the higher registers, but its very present in the mids somewhere, and that seems to translate across patches. I doubt its a meaningfull strategy to try and eq that out, better to use its great versatility to see if you can bend it to your will.

The patches I make sound nothing like the stuff online though :wink: I’m generally making sounds that are much more rhythmically modulated, bouncy, funky, rather than the endless pads and distressed keys you hear online. Bending it to my will is definitely the right approach, and is also part of the problem. Sometimes it takes a long time to get to the sweet spot with this synth, whereas its more immediate with others.

Right:) i kinda wonder what the analog heat could do for it…it has a way of rounding out things i find…

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Yeah, Soundtoys plugins take on that role in my setup. Definitely make a difference, I love 'em.

If its rythmic/perc patches Ive recently discovered the little radiator - just a bit of it and something really happens!

I’d really LOVE a Roland SH-7 :drooling_face:

This is my favorite resurrection of all time.

This has always been the tempest for me. I cut my teeth on the original er-1 and love aux perfusion and the weird way the ring mod randomizes the hats on it. I wanted to grow up and find something analog and quirky but the tempest never quite got me there. The blast beats is closer but because it’s fm the tweaking just as often lands in unusable as crazy fun.

I am probably going to get a gotharman something but I really wanted the tempest to be the answer and it’s just never lived up to what I wanted. Hopefully I won’t be posting about my Gotharman machine when I finally jump that way. It seems like it does the “everything the ar doesn’t” pretty well.

Still I don’t know that I’ll ever sell the tempest. It’s one that would be hard to replace if I changed my mind.

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Sample the Tempest with a digitakt, it makes it so much more fulfilling. I also cant complain about P12 , sits well, i just dont do stereo widening in the patch, that is done after the recording.

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Back from the dead, haha! I’m the OP. FWIW, I eventually sold the P12. It had a character that while interesting, I just couldn’t bond with. I now have an OB-6 and Digitone, both for a few years now, and couldn’t be happier. It all come down to personal taste, I guess.

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This is good to know.

I was thinking the same thing about my P6.

I just got it a couple months ago and never really started onto her until now. I got caught up in the Syntakt.

I’m so used to that filthy beast and the (over)power of my Moogs , that I think I need to find out how the filters work. The P6 isn’t sounding as fat as I would like, and I think that’s my fault.

I’m walking in the same path as you in terms of the sound of my P6.

I think I’m going to take the approach of changing how I do things to really make the P6 the center, and build everything out from there.

Luckily, I’m new to production, like a year in exactly, and I think it’s time to challenge myself.

It is very flexible, i use it for plucks, pads, fx sounds, moog sounds fatter quickly, prophet is more work, but you can do much more if you spend the time learning it. p12 can also layer, which is good for pad sounds, or work on different midi channels, making it 2 synth (and it has 2 stereo out)

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