What's the #1 gear that helped you creativly?

Tough question.
Initially guitar and bass since those got me started playing music way back when. Within a couple of years I scraped enough cash together to get a four track and that really cracked my brain open.
A big contender would be a soldering iron though. Mastering that taught me that practically anything is potential gear.

I export the ideas in both MIDI and audio via Dropbox and then take it to Cubase / Ableton.

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You’ve mentioned before the OP-1 for finishing tracks…

Not so much mention of that for Digitone

Over the years, the thing that I’ve reliably come back to time and again is Reaktor. Most recently I’ve been so inspired by the M8 Tracker and then I recently decided to get a Maschine Mk3 which has proved to be quite the revelation…

I got mine’s precisely because I had a realisation that it could be used in a quite Elektron way. I’d always thought of it more as samples and NKS standards etc - an inerface for the computer but still fundamentally tied to it. However, Maschine+ being announced got me thinking and then I realised that the Mk3 was a more cost effective way to achieve what I wanted and I’ve found that I never look at the computer.

The key to achieving this is to emulate the Elektron concept of ā€˜machines’ like you get on the MD, MNM, AR and M:C. I do it using Reaktor Blocks by building a small synth which can be done in 10mins if you want (I’ll often play about for longer trying out different combinations of filters/oscillators/whatever) and then saving that. In Maschine, open Reaktor within a ā€˜sound’, open the mini synth you just built, clear all the pages from the macros part of the Maschine and then create a fresh page of macros, click ā€˜learn’ and map the most important controls from the mini synth, then finally save that as a ā€˜sound’. The whole process including building the Reaktor synth takes 15/20mins. After that, it’s super quick to just browse to your user sounds with the Maschine controller and load a custome designed synth.

So, for me, I’m basically using Maschine with only it’s internal drum synths (which sound pretty great) and a collection of about 8 ā€˜machines’ that are tailored to my taste - I never use samples, browse plugins etc though I could in the future if I want - and the workflow is exactly the same as when I’m using my Elektrons. The other bonus is that I can open a project in the plugin within Live and then route the channels to separate tracks and then can record performances in the same that I use overbridge.

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That’s definitely an opinion! Some people find that a workflow that works for them is the best way to feel inspired enough to make music at times. Some devices or instruments also brings things out of people creatively that more traditional ways wouldn’t. I know world class musicians that use a tambourine to start their guitar writing process. Don’t ask me why but that’s what they do. It’s kind of short sighted to think ā€œit’s about practice and learningā€ ok and what about if you’re well practiced and learned but bored! Life is multi faceted, as are people.

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Guitar. And a ZT Lunchbox amp that allowed me access to quality clean tones at a volume that didn’t shake the windows out

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Exactly. You can’t make music with a pencil or a car, even if those are the things that have helped you creatively.

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Agree on everything you say. Felt completely the same way.
Great idea with reaktor blocks. Makes so much sense to build small synths that fit the interface, only with few key parameters.
And the blocks sound soo good.

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It’s not short-sighted at all, it’s a reaction to the way the topic was proposed. I totally agree that certain instruments or objects or workflows can bring out creativity. I didn’t suggest otherwise. But this thread was proposed in such a ridiculously broad manner, that it sounded like the OP was potentially a bit lost and looking for gear to solve a lack of creativity, which is a frequent theme on forums and often one which ends in money spent / lost, creativity and energy wasted.

The point is, if you’re practising and learning and making the most of what you have, then you tend to have a much stronger idea of what works for you and
what willl help you achieve more … and thus you don’t need to create yet another broad, aimless and pointless list of people’s favourite gear.

You actually can. Imagination, creativity, knowledge and ability trumps a pile of gear every time. But hey, let’s just write the word octatrack in a list a bunch of times.

Hah, give me an example of music made with a pencil please. I’ll give you that you can make music with a car, as I’ve heard and totally dig an album of a car running ildly for 40 minutes.

At least in part: Einstürzende Neubauten ā€œDie Explosion Im Festspielhausā€.

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Yeah, used other gear as well and not the main instrument of that piece. I’ll allow the music to have been recorded, but the pencil should be the main instrument. And not like, hitting a table or scratching a paper but the pencil itself.

For example Aube’s Aqua Syndrome is all sampled sounds of water, but heavily processed so while water was the main sound source, it’s not just him recording himself splashing around in a kiddie pool. He needed a sampler and effects to achieve it and I’d say the water itself wasn’t the most important single element in his workflow.

Pencils? Just a few quick examples of their uses that spring to mind:

Mini - 8Dio Tiny Object Sample Library for Kontakt VST/AU/AAX – 8dio.com (pencil samples in this)

https://www.pianobook.co.uk/library/glass-of-water/ (instrument made with only glass of water and pencil)

https://www.pianobook.co.uk/library/pianochord/ (pencil used to strike strings)

Col legno - Wikipedia (a technique often performed with pencils to save damaging bows)

The point is, you can take the sounds made with a pencil (either snapping, writing, hitting an object etc) and easily turn them into music if you have the imagination. I’ve made live music with groups of children or less able adults using nothing but pencils or other similar items, with no FX or processing, just the sounds in the room. And did we make a creative, interesting and atmospheric musical performance? Yes, we absolutely did.

So now everything in this thread isn’t allowed to interact with anything else? No FX or processing or anything else needed whatsoever? Because that’s a totally different proposition. I don’t see why you’re imposing that rule to prove your point when people are taking the time to educate you. Samplers are nothing without samples.

Not to mention the fact that with all this talk about ā€˜workflow’, a pencil can surely be one of the best creative tools, which is the theme here :man_facepalming:t3: Have you ever seen hand-written scores? It can be an enlightening experience seeing the ā€˜workflow’ of those who built our musical history.

Yeah, just need a clear example of music where the pencil itself is the main musical element or the clear #1 piece of gear used in producing the piece. I can give you countless of examples of other more familiar instruments or more dynamic objects being used as a main element, most likely main source of inspiration but the pencil by itself isn’t one I’d imagine being the main source of inspiration for anyone, or the #1 gear that helped them creatively. I’ll be glad to be proven wrong!

Also samplers are definitely useful without samples, just make a feedback loop and you have a sound produced by the machine itself.

And just a disclaimer, this whole argument is pretty dumb and not to be taken that seriously.

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That’s interesting. I’ve never delved into Reaktor, other than downloading a few Ensembles. I may take a proper look at Reaktor Blocks at some stage and see what it can do.

It’s good to hear others thoughts on Maschine. I used it daily for about 4 years, so it’s played a big part in my music making past.

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Apple Earpods (the one with the cables, older iterations like from Iphone 4S). They sound just right to me.

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Electricity.

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I guess most of the classical music was written before being actually played.

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not with a pencil! and classical composers definitely played the music on piano or w/e instrument they had on hand and knew how to play before writing it down, or writing down ideas then trying them out before finalising them. even the story about beethoven writing a symphony when he was stone deaf is not true.

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In 2004, it was FL Studio and finding out I could record songs on a computer. The last few years, OT and OP-1 (and new guitars- every guitar has a different set of songs in it). I guess all of those are tied for #1.