What's next for Elektron? (Part 2)

I heard this so many times on this forum, as a dev myself I can assure you that argument makes no sense.

Its not “doing it from scratch” if you already have a complete working code (ok probably in diff programming language, but still). Its surely doable, im not saying its a 2 week job, but its been a decade, its their flagship model and it would sell like lava cake.

They do not even need to “reinvent the wheel”. Give us 16 buffers, 16 tracks, new effects, more RAM, etc, just beef it up.

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great idee XLN and Elktron would be destroy the whole scene ,its like BMW Coop with Mercedes Digital, lol

That’s not how software engineering works though. Any codebase can be learnt and updated, especially in a company with good software engineering practices (which Elektron must have, to have survived so long). All you’ve heard is people talking on forums - those discussions are not necessarily grounded in reality.

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I recommend the Neuzeit Drop. Basically 32x Octatrack crossfaders that can manipulate up to 8 parameters on 4 devices at once. On each knob. And can be sequenced… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

64x if you count that each one has 2 layers.

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2DFAM and a Labyrinth this is what I will get…

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I’m a senior embedded software engineer. I have a pretty good grasp of how things work.
Yes, any codebase can be learnt. But if it was mostly a few people who knew the system and they all quit, and, for example, it was written in C89, while the current team knows mostly modern C++ and rust, it would make much more sense to just write the platform from scratch rather than try to learn the old codebase and expand on that.
And yes, I don’t know if those rumours are true, but I’m pretty sure that they would do something more with the Octatrack if it was a low hanging fruit.

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What I meant is that if they wanted to do a modern OT, they would have to rewrite the whole thing from scratch.
And learning the old codebase and expanding on that would (if the rumours are true) take so much time and effort that it’s more worth it to just start over on the new platform.

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I mean it has taken Roland 40 years to release an analog drum machine as a modern successor to the 808/909, and if you go off that analogy of Elektron making a OT MKIII then you would be looking at 2050 :slight_smile: TR-1000 looks great, but it’s just some healthy competition. Elektron are far from done.

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Yes, this is likely what they will do if they ever release an OT MK3. However, it’s still not a low-hanging fruit. There will be lots of work to get that up and running, even with a stable TV to re-use code from.

Rytm MK3 with stereo sampling, tonverk effects and heat analog output stage (includes EQ/compressor per track, 2 insert FX per track + 3 FX sends)

Elektron A16 with improved oscillators and tonverk effects (16 tracks and 16 voices)

Not much to ask in 2025 I think, and they have the technology to do this it. The TR1000 has shown there’s a strong market for >$2.5k machines if they’re good and not crippled like the tonverk…

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Yeah, I may end up going that route as well. It’s just that used but minty DFAM+Mother (Sound Studio) are pretty easily had at the moment. Decisions decisions :slight_smile:

My god! We’re beyond pathetic imo! Our expectations couldn’t be lower!

Why couldn’t they make an Iridium type synth with 16 channels and their usual sequencer at least?! It’s 2025 for god’s sake.

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possible if they convert the analog voices into digital and not the other way around. You lose analog filters on the samples but gain a lot of flexibility.

I was thinking about digital synth. With today’s CPUs so much is possible.

Edit: Their analog sound btw is comical vs almost any other analog synth out there. Analog drive/saturation too
IMO

3 month ago I sold my DT2 + DN2 + SP-404MKII and bought a Move and Ableton suite.

I think I was tired to wait for updates on gears i owned. It was exciting at the beginning (spending time in forum to imagine what will be the next update i need) but I lost this excitation.
Too many strange choices, too many frustrations with these machines.

I think Toneverk was the definitive end of my Elektron dreams. Not at all the machine I imagined. A 3rd family of sampler ? Why not an Octatrack Mk3 instead?
I was sure that Toneverk will be a portable groovebox. A kind of Syntakt with polyphony, sampling capacities and a battery. It is not.

I can’t say that the Move is a perfect groovebox. I miss the Elektron sequencer (i.e. probabilities) and the screen is tiny. But this Move is so smart, well designed, without major bugs, unlimited ‘plocks’, really portable, wifi, really good sound, good FXs, frequent major updates, sampling for… 500€. I’m less lost in expectations. Everything is more clear for me.

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Was trying to find a nicer way of saying exactly this, but I like your version better :slight_smile:

Some folks here are just musicians/writers/dreamers who take their best shot at putting together a nice setup, then get on with the important stuff, like making new music. I’m mostly using my incredibly inferior combo of TV/DNII/ST and having the time of my life trying to come up with something interesting. Hope that’s ok with the spreadsheet obsessed armchair critics.

Regarding some of the latest shiny things that have come out lately…Let’s hear some decent music instead of bunch of hyperbolic babble.

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I am not selling my DT2 and DN2, as I do love the Elektron workflow. But I bought a Move yesterday, and we’ll see what happens.
The last few months I’ve basically used Ableton 90% and then the DT2 and DN2 10% (especially when traveling), but if the Move takes these 10% I might just sell them myself.
I agree that the Tonverk was probably, at the very least, the beginning of the end of my Elektron dreams.

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It’s a strange feeling to see incentives to remain silent in a discussion forum. A kind of paradox.
In short… What I write is a personal feeling and is based on personal experiences. I understand that others don’t share these feelings/experiences, but I think it might be interesting for Elektron to hear it too. Everyone needs feedbacks and a compass.

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@Fin25 It’s a bit weird to say that in a discussion forum.
People are here to discuss, and in this thread about what’s next for Elektron it’s very relevant to talk about wishes, pitfalls etc.
My impression is that there are more gear-heads than producers in this forum. Nothing wrong with that, by the way, but that explain why the thread speculating on OT MK3 is longer than the threads showing your music.

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I agree with this :point_up_2:

MD/OT ultra 2000 hybrid please

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