What is the sound of the future?

Fin25 · 2023-04-03T15:17:23.367Z

PofM:

Hmm, Smooth Operator does sound like the name of an algorithm for improving AI generated content

I always thought she was singing about her love for FM synthesis.

DonovanDwyer · 2023-04-03T15:31:43.077Z

“Logistic Map Bifurcation Diagram” sounds like the debut EP title from whomever The Sound of the Future is.

DonovanDwyer · 2023-04-03T15:39:08.903Z

Fin25:

Take Benefits as an example

Love this.

thermionic · 2023-04-03T16:06:23.175Z

Fin25:

Maybe it’s just the novelty factor, time will tell, but music is definitely getting political again, and that’s usually a sign that a shift is coming, and that shift seems to be making a racket.

To add on, I guess even lyricless music that is angry and disaffected becomes political when the people making it are coopted by politicians who can so easily swap expression/symptom with cause of any problems.

Influential culture that welcomes marginalized people is the easiest bait to rile up the elderly with hate in their hearts and open wallets to anyone who amasses power on claims that they can halt the progress of time and suppress grown adults as if they were “unruly children”.

shigginpit · 2023-04-03T16:16:49.711Z

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smosher · 2023-04-03T16:31:16.619Z

Come to think of it, since that’s a famous diagram in chaos theory I would be very surprised if no one has put it on an album cover.

There is also a neat 3D version:

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RhythmDroid · 2023-04-03T16:48:36.660Z

The “music of the future” will not be about a novel sound, but about whichever concept resonates with the mood or zeitgeist of the largest number of people […in the 1st world or anywhere that is concerned with such questions]

Mood predictions:
Technopessimism
Technoskepticism
Technosuspicion
Technoburnout
Pre-internet nostalgia
A longing for the time before we were made aware of every form of suffering in every last corner of the world.

shigginpit · 2023-04-03T17:03:19.709Z

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shigginpit · 2023-04-03T17:17:24.850Z

RhythmDroid:

Pre-internet nostalgia
A longing for the time before we were made aware of every form of suffering in every last corner of the world.

the beginning of the end.

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RhythmDroid · 2023-04-03T17:30:45.057Z

Exactly.

the promise and the potential was so great - and now here we are getting obese watching reactions to reactions to reactions with just enough autonomy left in our thumb to reach for the Close Tab button, only to be overcome and click the “add to cart” button.

Nothing’s better than a Saturday afternoon where you forget what time it is, sit on a sun-warmed, dry-grass-overtaken curb on a side street, listening to the intro to Mayonaise by the Smashing Pumpkins remembering when the biggest challenge in life was finding a topic for your 1-page English assignment due Monday and if that girl you had a crush on was falling for your best friend instead…

shigginpit · 2023-04-03T17:41:33.394Z

fuuuuuuckkkk. that’s like the second best song of all time. I remember learning to play it on the guitar and thinking there’s no way I just learned this magic spell.

I stood inside of a shower stall with an acoustic guitar tuned to whatever open g or whatever funky tuning that song is actually in, literally in a concrete and tile glass door shower stall with the guitar at a super weird angle cocked upwards, with a cheap tape recorder so I could get the right amount of reverb and try to record that feeling, that magic. the internet had all but washed that memory away.

double like! thanks!

I just verified, the tuning was " EbminMaj7 open tuning ." on mayonaise

Fin25 · 2023-04-03T17:55:11.677Z

thermionic:

I guess even lyricless music that is angry and disaffected becomes political when the people making it are coopted by politicians

Luckily for us in the UK, almost all our politicians were born in the 1700s, so it’s rare they get close enough to anything past Bach to make much of an impact.

obscurerobot · 2023-04-03T17:57:22.723Z

Fin25:

so it’s rare they get close enough to anything past Bach to make much of an impact.

NME – 11 Jul 18

Rage Against the Machine sent Nigel Farage a cease and desist letter over his...

Rage Against the Machine are demanding that Nigel Farage rename his 'Nigel Farage Against the Machine' podcast.

Estimated reading time: 2 minutes

I’m 99.9999999% sure the NK one is fake, but if I was Kim Jong Un, I would absolutely force the military orchestra to play my favorite tunes from Swiss Boarding School.

RhythmDroid · 2023-04-03T18:09:31.049Z

shigginpit:

fuuuuuuckkkk. that’s like the second best song of all time. I remember learning to play it on the guitar and thinking there’s no way I just learned this magic spell.

I stood inside of a shower stall with an acoustic guitar tuned to whatever open g or whatever funky tuning that song is actually in, literally in a concrete and tile glass door shower stall with the guitar at a super weird angle cocked upwards, with a cheap tape recorder so I could get the right amount of reverb and try to record that feeling, that magic. the internet had all but washed that memory away.

double like! thanks!

I just verified, the tuning was " EbminMaj7 open tuning ." on mayonaise

Hahah, double-like back! That song IS a magic spell…it’s like a warm safe memory conjure incantation. Afternoon sun and the edges of suburban development - the only space for adolescent autonomy.

Nice rich concept there…the internet “washing things away.”

onthebannedwagon · 2023-04-03T18:20:47.472Z

100 or so years from now AI will have all human music scrubbed from the public sphere yet retain it in their private archive to re-release as the newest AI cultural achievement.

shigginpit · 2023-04-03T18:21:32.385Z

Another one for me, randomly, is black metallic by the catherine wheel. I don’t know why, but someone super cool put me on to it once a long time ago and I guess it is now forever associated with her coolness.

Also Rush by Big Audio Dynamite and maybe information society “Think” put me in some kind weird euphoric/nostalgaic music trance.

thermionic · 2023-04-03T18:28:31.281Z

obscurerobot:

I’m 99.9999999% sure the NK one is fake, but if I was Kim Jong Un, I would absolutely force the military orchestra to play my favorite tunes from Swiss Boarding School.

I still haven’t figured out where the satire ends and the performance begins with Laibach.

RhythmDroid:

Nice rich concept there…the internet “washing things away.”

It’s somewhat fascinating how well the internet prunes the ephemeral, so much information I specifically recall from the old internet now no longer hosted.

dzyndzel · 2023-04-03T21:20:44.230Z

Surprised it hasn’t been mentioned here, but 3D audio/spatial audio is going to become more prevalent in my opinion.

However, it looks like most of it will be accomplished by AI or other tools & automations that streamline the mixing process.

whim · 2023-04-03T22:19:49.130Z

the end of the dominance of 12ed2 tuning (12-equal temperament); more widespread awareness of the possibilities of the frequency/pitch continuum–xenharmonics/microtonality, extended just intonation, adaptive tuning, pitch/rhythm liminality, etc.

(an aspect of the sound[s] of the future)

smosher · 2023-04-03T22:20:41.740Z

thermionic:

so much information I specifically recall from the old internet now no longer hosted.

Search used to be better, so it’s hard to tell sometimes. I just checked one of the first sites I ever visited and the content is still there. Thankfully they put up a web portal because it used to be an FTP site… and Firefox no longer has an integrated FTP client.

But some stuff doesn’t translate to the future very well, it is more-medium dependent than text, or files with text. Take flash, which has recently been effectively eradicated. Not everyone updates their stuff, and eventually it is either collected by a preservation effort (like archive.org) or lost to time. I am betting Discord will blackhole much of the current era’s community knowledge some day. Much of that is just text, but it’s bound up in posts on servers that require accounts and invites, and that is just the kind of media complexity that fosters dependence. Which I am sure is no accident.

Getting back to ephemeral content, there is also the ephemeral medium. Like certain internet fora. Some content perpetuates forever because it is forever reposted, but much of it expires quickly. I think even this is healthier than the Discord model, since you know it’s going away unless regenerated, and a sudden bankruptcy isn’t going to create an abrupt void in available knowledge.

Then you get weird hybrids, like GitHub, being the default choice for public source code hosting, and having a policy of expiring untended repos. Combine that with MS’s adoption of Twitter’s “we suspended your account as pretext to collect your phone number” tactic and this is already killing off public repositories.