What do I need as a live gigging musician?

rex_mundii · 2015-05-18T08:22:28.000Z

""andreasroman"":

[quote=“rex_mundii”]As well as lots of practice, write yourself some sort of cue card - that way if your mind goes blank with nerves you’ll have something to get back on track. Even if you don’t use them it’s comforting to know that you have them (kinda like public speaking).

You’ll also need this tactical goat.

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Thanks all, guys. Continues good advise. I very much appreciate it and feel a lot better prepared.
In the spirit of true priorities, I will acquire the goat before anything else. I will sell my instruments if I have to. I can perform with a goat. And I can make noises while I do. It’d count as avant garde, and be cool in its own way.[/quote]
LOL…

Once knew a guy that lived in one of those sharehouses where everybody is at a crazy/genius level - One weekend he found a goat somewhere (no idea how, he lived in the inner city) so for the next few days he took the goat with him to whatever parties he went to.

Everybody thought it was awesome. True story.

michalronin · 2015-05-18T08:46:05.000Z

Hate to break it to you, but…

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rex_mundii · 2015-05-18T12:40:02.000Z

Looks like goats are a universally recognized party accessory

andajazz · 2015-05-19T10:18:25.000Z

it´s good to always have one safety pattern in mind, especially if you do lots of improvising (which I do). like a Plan B if the impro does´t turn out to be too good or if you run out of ideas. or if something goes wrong technically.

for example improv -> pattern -> improv -> pattern etc.
on good days, you might not even need one pattern

ah, and an external delay can safe your life, if something goes wrong:
a long infinite delay, and you have time to reset everything.

good luck and have fun
andajazz

vos · 2015-05-20T06:54:53.000Z

All great info here THanx …

fmw · 2015-05-20T09:27:59.000Z

a stereo DI box. I have a blue Sampson one: was cheap & sounds fine. Sorry if someone has already mentioned that.

xidnpnlss · 2015-05-20T11:38:50.000Z

""fmw"":

a stereo DI box. I have a blue Sampson one: was cheap & sounds fine. Sorry if someone has already mentioned that.

Why, may I ask…I’ve heard conflicting opinion on DI boxes…

ah, and an external delay can safe your life, if something goes wrong:
a long infinite delay, and you have time to reset everything.

Ahhhh so that’s why the Haxan Cloak performs with that lone delay pedal. Good advice.

fmw · 2015-05-20T12:11:16.000Z

DI box? to get a simple output into the XLRs in the stage box or multicore (or the channels on a powered PA system etc)

udenjoe · 2015-05-20T13:13:09.000Z

One thing that will help is to package up your gear. Then unpack in a different location in your house. Doing this will help you make sure you have everything you need. Power strips, cables, etc.

I like to have a mixer and compressor to control my levels. DI is a good idea!

tedopon · 2015-05-20T13:23:15.000Z

All you really need is a headlamp, a mixer and your instruments. A headset or a small set of monitors is helpful, but I try to have run through what I’m playing at least a couple times so I can be prepared to improvise during the inevitable periods when you can’t hear anything except the audience.
Someone mentioned earlier that if you have the option, get your levels right before you play. There will be many situations where for whatever reason you can’t, but it makes things go a lot smoother if you can. If they are cool with it, do it.
Just remember to have fun. You’re being asked to play for people…they want you there. You’re going to make plenty of mistakes, but 9/10 times, you’re the only one who notices. People are there to have a good time, so if you’re having a good time, you’re setting the right vibe.

EDIT PS:
Plug in with cables unless you have plenty of time beforehand to set up and test a DI box. I have had DI boxes take a dump before because we got in a hurry and it wasn’t pretty.

rozzbud · 2015-05-20T14:35:56.000Z

i don’t perform but the one tip i keep at the back of my head is to keep the kick drum on one channel. So that you can eq it according to the venue you’ll be playing.

andreasroman · 2015-05-21T07:47:17.000Z

Very much appreciate the good advise and kind words of encouragment here. Thanks, everyone.

This is gonna sound ridicilous but I’m telling you anyway - I did a small gig just for the family in the kitchen the other day, like a rehearsal in an environment where mistakes were highly tolerated.

While it felt awkward and silly, that feeling went away when my daughter said “Dad, I’m gonna have to dance to this”, and up she went, and her mom joined in with our baby son on her arm.

So the venue was our kitchen, the lighting was our ceiling lamp, the crowd was only three, but for a few minutes, we rocked the house with an Analog Rytm and a Bose portable speaker. And before I started playing, I was a little bit nervous. In a good way.

drone · 2015-05-21T10:01:52.000Z

for me, the most important thing to have in mind, when I play in a gig (whatever the place: I’ve been playing as well in clubs and in free parties in the woods), is this: never play against the sound system, but play the sound system itself. I mean this: I’ve been playing on very good sound systems in clubs, but also on very crappy small sound systems in free parties sometimes. The important thing is not to try to do the same thing you do at home, or reach the same sound: it’s impossible. So, do the best you can do with the sound of the actual place in which you are playing. Use your ears, not your memory of the ideal set you want to play. Be here and now, and don’t imagine what it could have been with a better sound. So, if you don’t have a good kick, or if you have too much mediums because the sound system is calibrated for rock bands, or whatever, just play with it and try to discover other territories of sound with this peculiar sound system, no against it.

my two cents…

fmw · 2015-05-21T12:10:11.000Z

""andreasroman"":

I did a small gig just for the family in the kitchen the other day, like a rehearsal in an environment where mistakes were highly tolerated.

love it!

vos · 2015-05-21T15:13:23.000Z

""andreasroman"":

Very much appreciate the good advise and kind words of encouragment here. Thanks, everyone.

This is gonna sound ridicilous but I’m telling you anyway - I did a small gig just for the family in the kitchen the other day, like a rehearsal in an environment where mistakes were highly tolerated.

While it felt awkward and silly, that feeling went away when my daughter said “Dad, I’m gonna have to dance to this”, and up she went, and her mom joined in with our baby son on her arm.

So the venue was our kitchen, the lighting was our ceiling lamp, the crowd was only three, but for a few minutes, we rocked the house with an Analog Rytm and a Bose portable speaker. And before I started playing, I was a little bit nervous. In a good way.

vos · 2015-05-21T15:16:18.000Z

""drone"":

for me, the most important thing to have in mind, when I play in a gig (whatever the place: I’ve been playing as well in clubs and in free parties in the woods), is this: never play against the sound system, but play the sound system itself. I mean this: I’ve been playing on very good sound systems in clubs, but also on very crappy small sound systems in free parties sometimes. The important thing is not to try to do the same thing you do at home, or reach the same sound: it’s impossible. So, do the best you can do with the sound of the actual place in which you are playing. Use your ears, not your memory of the ideal set you want to play. Be here and now, and don’t imagine what it could have been with a better sound. So, if you don’t have a good kick, or if you have too much mediums because the sound system is calibrated for rock bands, or whatever, just play with it and try to discover other territories of sound with this peculiar sound system, no against it.

my two cents…

Some exellent advise I never thought of - ( for a control-freak like me )

Mies_van_der_Robot · 2015-05-21T21:37:53.000Z

""drone"":

So, do the best you can do with the sound of the actual place in which you are playing. Use your ears, not your memory of the ideal set you want to play. Be here and now, and don’t imagine what it could have been with a better sound. So, if you don’t have a good kick, or if you have too much mediums because the sound system is calibrated for rock bands, or whatever, just play with it and try to discover other territories of sound with this peculiar sound system, no against it.

Top advice right here. The “Give Mozart a toy piano and he’d write a concerto” principle. The PA is an instrument…play it!

Also, I cannot underscore enough the earlier advice to have some kind of backup: mp3 player, iPhone…some device independently able to produce an entire set’s worth of music if your main rig fails.

In their days of performing on laptops with Max/MSP, Autechre carried around a Minidisc player full of tiny snippet tracks and would put it on auto-shuffle if the laptop crashed.

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