Ways of Exporting Stems from DT2?

Hmm. Would have to try one and see “how much” it normalizes. In other words, what an actual impact it will sonically make. Have never tried this and always was avoiding automated normalization for years now.

That sounds more like it! Will try this out. Will need to check what normalization does however

I think it depends on the ears of the user. I wouldn’t spend time preparing samples and using the transfer software if I didn’t feel as though I heard a difference from the normalization. Especially with something like a kick drum, or certain sampled/prepared synths, I feel that I hear it most prominently in those.

I find that the elektron metronome is not always in agreement with other metronomes, so unless you’re clocking live with the digitakt I wouldn’t count on any long duration of track to fit on the grid as it will drift after some time.

Four bar loops should be no problem though, you’re right about that.

You might start each recording into the daw with a pre-roll metronome.

That would be a lot easier to match up the tracks with.

I don’t think the metronome plays as an audio track over USB, pre-roll or otherwise. I know it doesn’t with overbridge. In other words the metronome is inaudible when streaming audio, but I’d have to verify if the behavior is different without overbridge to be sure.

I dont want to use this. This would destroy any microtiming experiments i have created and any „funkiness“ and imperfections of the DT`s sequencer, miniscule modulations etc etc.
Also it is very hard to keep the overview of what happened. Sometimes in complex sequences of events i have noticed that Live will quantize to the wrong point of the grid, thus completely altering if not destroying a groove i initially meticulously allowed to be „wrong“ and fine tuned in its „wrongfullness“ in the first place if that makes sense

The rest of your method i find cool but too deep for me. I got brain meltdown reading it. Need to read again

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What i mean is that if it normalizes too much that also basically means that the mix balance will be off resulting in a different mood. Thats easier to happen than one might assume imho

Good to know. Have not compared yet.

Maybe i will just wait for Overbridge though. So many things that can go wrong and i have so much other stuff to do tbh. Dunno

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My feelings are the same, so I avoid it after doing some experimentation. That’s all I was implying, but there is no “wrong” way to do it so if a person doesn’t hear something they dislike, then no reason to do it that way. It is, in fact, probably the simplest solution.

Tracking out audio without overbridge gets the same quality, it’s just more time consuming. If you want to work on one track it’s worth it, if you’re tracking out a whole album might get frustrating.

That is my main argument for waiting. Not so much quality.
I am a bit spoiled i admit. Even using Blocs from Novation or Patterning on my ipad i can hit „export as Ableton Project“ -share via Airdrop and have it as a working Ableton project immediately. Its magical.
With the DT2 what is magical is what it does in general. On the other hand the interface to a computer and in general the exchange with the outer world is a bit „mad max-what was left over from technology was this 56k modem"

In this instance that does seem to be the case.

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ah that’s annoying.

It would be extra work but you could load a sample of single impulse in and have a pattern playing it for a bar before you switch to what you want to record.

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I hear you on the quantize point. I don’t tend to do microtiming shifts on Elektron gear usually so pulling all the transients onto the grid in Live doesn’t alter the groove.

The safe way to adjust for any timing lag in the audio clip is to go into the waveform and adjust the start point of the loop so it lines up exactly with the first transient in the waveform, but don’t then touch any other transient in the rest of the clip.

Yeah, it’s quite a detailed walkthrough… but hopefully useful.

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I usually use the midi tracks to align, actual notes or artificial “pattern starts”

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Stems are neurotic waste, commit to stereo out only, record everything you do always and youll be able to make something you love :wink:

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Unless D2 gets OB…yeah that seems to be the only way to SIMPLY get it done. There are a ton of effects and tricks in DAWS. Until OB, they’ll have to do.

the stereo out commitment also makes us better at mixing, get it right the first time and voila no surgical eq/goofy compression tricks in “post” just having fun and whatnot. Assuming you are jamming on actual speakers that you trust and not headphones. Gotta get that somatic feedback :slight_smile:

The reason why i use a daw is not effects. Its easy re-arrangement and finalizing.
The effects are not a priority for me

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If your aim is to commit i using only what you do on the DT then maybe yes. Also if your
working method is creating „jams“ then also yes.
If your aim is to go deeper into arrangement, transitions, polishing you cant beat a daw.
There is a reason it was created and why multitrack production still exists.
I totally get what you mean with maintaining the flow and be done with it but it is not always what i want to do.
To the surgical eq and compression , if i find it needed i simply do it. I don`t get how this is goofy but to each their own.
There is not only one way to do something and specially in arts or lets call it expression, there literally is no „right“ way.

I have a friend who always tells me „erase everything. All your older projects. Make a new start. Sell all equipment. You dont need it“ and other things like that. While i get what he is trying to say i don`t always agree

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I’m just saying, if you know a guy in the exporting business, then you’re good to go.

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Ok :+1:

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