Waveform chains

AdamJay · 2015-03-11T12:30:37.000Z

Getting very good results. Thanks again.
When I have the time, I am going to do a couple chains using NI Monark.
The sound of the “load” circuit, the osc feedback, and the 3 oscs mixed never lets me down. It will be interesting to hear Rytm’s analog circuitry on top of it.

I’ll post them here. I’ll also be doing some general sample (non single cycle waveform) chains with various instruments. I have a boatload of old Machinedrum samples that can easily be split into 15 hits per chain. Also, Chris Randall demo Audio Damage gave away some eurorack modular drum sounds he designed for Maschine, that I could chain. I’ll confirm with him for permission.

Also, have you experimented with taking pre-existing Octatrack sample chains, and trimming off the last two hits to make it conform to the Rytm a bit better? I may give that a go. It would be nice to breathe more life into some of the publicly shared OT chains.

blancodisco · 2015-03-11T13:50:56.000Z

Maybe someone can take a stab at some ‘wavetable’ chains a la PPG or Waldorf Microwave…

Muddler · 2015-03-11T14:13:48.000Z

The pre existing OT wave chains were my inspiration but I bet they would hard to get get just right. I really think have waves doubled up helps a lot. If you get good results on scwf please post them. I’ve done synth/sample chains as well. While 15 should work, I used 12 or 20 and 30 personally and they have given me good results so far.

I could try other waves later but I will still be making dozens more of these akwf. If you have numerous waves that are all the same length from the beginning to end, it’s easy to make chains.

Btw, anybody know how to recalibrate a??

dcsux · 2015-03-11T14:15:45.000Z

""blancodisco"":

Maybe someone can take a stab at some ‘wavetable’ chains a la PPG or Waldorf Microwave…

This is a really cool idea, but it is such a shame that you can only have 1 destination per LFO, unlike the A4 where you can have 2.
If you could modulate both the start and end point with a single LFO, you could effectively sweep through a wavetable.

AdamJay · 2015-03-11T15:57:58.000Z

Here is the 1st sample chain from The euro rack modular drums pack, synthesized by Chris Randall (Audio Damage, Sister Machine Gun, Analog Industries).

Details and original waveforms here:
http://m.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.php?bid=1897

Download:

Note that these are the shortest 15 samples from the 2 packs he created, combined.
I’ll do the longest samples in a seperate chain.

You can certainly get similar sounds with the Rytm’s machines. I like havin these as samples for layering with those machines without losing voices. Very thick sounds.

edit:

Here are the additional longest samples from the pack. Split into 12 hits in the chain: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3fdncyvjx42gpy/AnalogIndustries-EuroDrum12SampleChain-LongHits.wav?dl=0

I’ll also submit these to the Files section of the forum, should the links become inactive in the future.

AdamJay · 2015-03-13T18:10:44.000Z

Been getting a LOT of use out of the dcwf fluplukalgostrbox and fm chains! Thanks again!

Also, here’s a 30 slice bass waveform chain of various waves from Waldorf Pulse and Minimoog. https://www.dropbox.com/s/drs7egsyyn0vpaw/Pulse%26MiniMoog30Waves.wav?dl=0

Muddler · 2015-03-13T23:44:04.000Z

I’m really glad you can find them useful. I will download your offerings when I get home.

Listen, I’m trying to decide if I should calibrate or not so could you tell me if you’re getting clicks. Like if the attack is fast and decay and release are turned very low, if you play just one sample in chromatic quickly one after the other do you sometimes get a click or pop?

AdamJay · 2015-03-14T20:15:43.000Z

Yes, I get some clicks with your waves. But it is not bothering me because I rarely use fast attack settings

Are you making them with Logic, or Ableton Live?

I was doing mine in a Live, and at first had some clicks, then they got much better when i turned off the Clip Fade settings which are on by default.

My WaldorfPulse/Minimoog chain doesn’t give me any noticeable clicks, and the waves zero into each other, so I can get some interesting wavetabley stuff going with longer spaces between start/stop.

Muddler · 2015-03-14T22:57:02.000Z

So far I just used audacity. Probably try them on logic next as I’m starting to get the hang of logic these days.

Thanks, I won’t try and calibrate atm.

benwadub · 2015-03-20T18:25:16.000Z

i d like to make chains too some piano chords would be nice, i ll try to make a chain with all minor and another with major chords, i thought to sequence ableton’s grand piano in midi to have same lenghth and velocity and record the audio result, would it works?

AdamJay · 2015-03-20T18:35:13.000Z

""benwadub"":

i d like to make chains too some piano chords would be nice, i ll try to make a chain with all minor and another with major chords, i thought to sequence ableton’s grand piano in midi to have same lenghth and velocity and record the audio result, would it works?

Looking forward to it!

Rabbitfrog · 2015-03-20T21:00:18.000Z

Not sure if it’s the right topic for this. Someone said that single cycle waveforms should be on loop. How do I disable loop wen I am punching in trig notes? The loops goes on infinite regardless of trigs.

benwadub · 2015-03-20T21:03:20.000Z

if i remember well play with the amp envelope, a shortest decay or release can t rember exactly

AdamJay · 2015-03-21T00:55:45.000Z

Yes, AMP —> HLD, and DEC will shorten it up for you

benwadub · 2015-03-21T10:54:33.000Z

the piano chors chains are in the file section enjoy

Rabbitfrog · 2015-03-21T12:09:45.000Z

Oh boy this was embarrassing. Thanks, guys.

klerc · 2015-03-23T14:21:31.000Z

Do you have a Speak and spell chain for Rytm in stock?
Just checking before doing it myself when I will get the chance…

benwadub · 2015-03-23T14:27:43.000Z

no speack and spell chain bit if you have the samples i can do it with ableton!

klerc · 2015-03-23T14:34:09.000Z

Benwadub, that would be awesome

http://www.maximporges.com/files/speakandspellsamples.zip

Muddler · 2015-03-25T01:38:44.000Z

thanks for all the files. i just downloaded them.
@benwadub, on those chords it was a little strange bc I was getting a mono signal but when I checked the file it was stereo (44.1). Maybe could you export files as mono 16/48 just to simplify things?
thanks