Waldorf Protein

Attack will be the next :slight_smile: :wink:

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Cant compare the iridium, as it can do wavetable FM, and even modulate the Wavetable - means, you can exchange the Wavetable over time with an LFO, while scanning and fm´ing it. There is currently no VST which can do such a thing as far as i know. If somebody knows a VST, that can do such a thing - please let me know, i will try it out asap. And that is one oscillator, you could still do a sample and granular in parallel, - essentially 3 voices in parallel - which can also be sequenced with mod and note lanes. (And then layer another 3 , with split or stack.)
The only problem is the time spend with this thing, its ridiciously deep.

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Is this like the Waldorf M?

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Thanks for confirming that!

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Showed up earlier today, only had 5 mins with it so far. But seems nice enough to work with.

A single gripe thus far, I miss having an ”exit” button. It shifts active menu as you interact with things, but lets say you open settings then you have to engage an envelope encoder or something to switch the active menu. It’s a shift from how other synths work, so I found myself wondering ”how to get back out” even if not strictly needed

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how do you power it? can you use is standalone or you need a midi keyboard?

Powerbank right now.

The play button triggers a note, you can select which note in a menu that comes up. Also has an onboard sequencer/arp of some kind I have not tried

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Has anyone tried their Protein with an iPad? Does the iPad power it ok?

I wish my MPC didnt introduce such much ground loop noise when i power my Nanobox Lemondrop from it - I’m hoping that the Protein is better in this regard, as I’d really like to get power and Midi through the USB port

I did say “The Protein doesnt have the same range”…

While the cost jump from Protein to Iridum Core is significant, if i was going to pair my gear right the way back, I would probably end up with an Irdium Core, my AR MKII and my MPC Live.

For me, however, its nice to be able to get a lot of the Waldorf M at an easily justifiable cost.

Actually, what percentage of a Waldorf M is the Protein?

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I would surly want some more “Waldorf” layers when i played with Syntakt and Iridium - 2 can be quiete a lot filling the spectrum, but from a sequencing perspective it would be a lot easier to have like 8 synth tracks to squeeze out from a single box. From a sound module perspective this little thing is surly very intresting and has a lot to give. I am just a bit nerdy and spend whole evenings on creating my own tables, would be cool to have that also - and i think they even said it will come at some point.

(My first synth was a MicroQ, so i have a soft spot for Waldorf , but i hated the interface … the sound was really good tho.)

I think I saw this written/referenced somewhere, but could someone confirm that the Protein is essentially the new Microwave VST in a box with knobs?

No, its not compatible, they might work on an editor in the future if the Protein has some success. I think its a raspberry PI like SBC - the latency of the board is surly something what needs to investigated. The appeal of hardware is the low latency in my book at least - if everyone now introduces their 10 ms, larger setups will get very messy.

Iridium was fine latency wise ofc.

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It isn’t. I think the differences are explained in this video:
Protein - Deep Dive - Tutorial with CTO Rolf Wöhrmann - YouTube

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I like what I’m hearing so far from the Protein, sounds more interesting and “alive” than the Iridium or M which I’ve owned. Closer to the MW1 and XT…

Still not a fan of those tiny chicklet screens, but might pick one up anyway.

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How is the filter?

I like the MW plugin filter(s) and was a bit disappointed about 12db only in protein.

I want the Iridium for granular synthesis that is missing on the Protein and Blofeld.

He uses it also as granular FX. Just in case , if beeing on the fence or so…

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Iridium is really basic for granular. I would not spend that kind of money for this. Tasty Chips GR-1 blows it out the water entirely.

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Yeah, I just wanted to echo that: it’s underwhelming to be honest. Sure, using it layered with other stuff is interesting, but if you’re expecting the performance out of it as you’d expect out of a dedicated granular synth, you’re gonna be sorely disappointed.

A bit more on topic, I really liked a lot of the sounds I heard in the demo, and think I hear a fair bit of Iridium WT osc in it as well. The option to add in dirt and distortion in the Iridium allowed for some very dirty and rough sounding textures, which I miss after selling the Iridium.

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