User Manual for AK?

With any synth purchase made in past to present, from any company, when an item officially is available for sale/order, it surely helps a person make a decision let alone more sales if the User Manual were to be posted as a pdf download, no?

Posted specifications as it exists now, can be night and day as far as further details an User Manual would convey. Especially for keyboard synth players–not too many people purchase a keyboard synth just by posted specifications when SO much more of a determining factor lay in details to make sure integration in one’s own set-up would be right for individuals.

Three AK sales in my village from two males and one female–three different bands/project groups, were put-off because of aforementioned. Yes, I live within a major metropolitan city in USA. Happens to be a lot of musicians, visual artists, and writers whom live in this village West of university. Anyone else find this odd? Could it be perhaps the new O.S. for A4 will dictate that the AK User Manual will apply to both instruments such as say my Waldorf Q Keyboard User Manual also applies to the Rack Unit, with noted exceptions/differences?
Does this mean we can expect a brand new A4 User Manual as well?
Fervently interested in AK…but a lot of $$ to make decision based on current information available.
Is the User Manual still under construction?
Is the AK actually shipping with full User Manual?
The additional functionality of midi control alone warrants listing of what CC’s are and perhaps are not utilized, for instance.

So true, Namnibor!
+1

Erm…there IS a manual online for download and study. Not for the new OS, but it covers already a lot of main functions and features. Give Elektron some time to finish the new OS + manual. They are still a boutique manufacturer and no Yamaha corp with thousands of ppl.

Shure, the A4 manual helps. But there should be an own manual for the ak - at least next week, when they start shipping. But better now… It is a little bit odd that you can buy one without existing manual, isn’t it?

A dedicated Analog Keys manual will be uploaded very soon.

I hope the manual is going to be Fat…

The Analog Keys obviously has additional functions as both a controller keyboard and how thoroughly implemented is pretty important; has a multi-controller joystick; has LED’s above each/every key where from quick read of posted specs, a sound program can be assigned to each key; et al—thus, differing quite a bit from what exists as an A4 User Manual–may have the “A4 Engine within it but is really a brand new instrument from a keys playing perspective”. The Controller Function’s midi channel allocation and user configuration and how implemented is more than casual interest as well.
You were stating the blatant obvious about the A4 posted User Manual AND assuming that A4 User Manual has been sufficient for everyone even for the A4, let alone the AK, and that’s just not the case and am not alone.
Dave Smith Instruments has number of employees, including main code/programmer by the number you can count on ONE HAND, YET TWO WEEKS PRIOR to Prophet 12 release to actual SALES, the User Manual was available for download. Waldorf, another very small company, made the new Pulse 2 User Manual available long before actual sales. This practice is NOT just relegated historically to the “Big Three in Asia”.
Why?
Because in-depth specifics for keyboard synth players in all their various forms are pretty important because we each play/use keyboard synths in differing ways.
Why greet valid questions with the tired, snippy and outright disregard and respect for others whom perhaps think differently and perhaps will use an instrument much differently that the apparently existing “Group-Think” mentality? George Orwell already established how dangerous that kind of expected conformity is and can be.
The Analog Keys were created for the very ‘performance keyboard player in mind’ and with ability to have the AK sequencer RUNNING WHILE utilizing the KEYS as an external controller to our other synth racks or daisy chain of other keys/sound modules, and how complete that implementation is…and if in fact we can PLAY and RECORD dynamics such as After Touch, et al on AK keys into the AK Sequencer rather than having to go into each step as the A4 is to do this–are ALL really important for keyboard player’s workflow and yes, important for everyone new to keys as well. The prior A4 method has simply been creativity killjoy for key players as opposed to button pushers by nature and training.
This question had never been asked re: User Manual and I thought it would benefit many others, not just my own needs and is obvious others have same questions by thread’s response already, but whether by intentional or otherwise intimidation, people seem to find it easier to act as if some sort of holy line has been crossed when one or more do not fall into the Group Think and choose to think outside the box and wish to work differently and perhaps are a bit more analytical and wish for more complete documentation to truly be of use in set-ups. . It’s a thing called critical thinking…not to be confused with criticism; two different things.
@ Jon–thanks so very much for making this clear on availability of User Manual next week. The initial release amount of AK may become sold out by that time or time taken to study that User Manual, but plan like others, to purchase the AK. NOT out of pure ‘fanboyism’, but out of fervent desire for this performance oriented new instrument that indeed is a very welcome evolution of Elektron’s offerings.
FYI–a person should NOT have to qualify legitimately posted questions on this forum.

@Jon: Thanx for the Information. Great to hear!

BTW: I love boutique-manufactors as well as boutique-hotels. And I nerver missed something essential in these boutique-hotels… :wink:

fatter than the Analog Four manual?!? :zonked:

The A4 manual sucks balls

#justsayineventhoughitsbeensaidb4

I don’t want to hurt nobody feelings but from my point of view Elektron’s manuals could be a lot better.

I started with electronic music gears at mid 80’s, on those times there was very hard to get manuals in my native language (Spanish) because of that I practically learned English reading electronic gear’s manuals plus a bit of intuition and a lot of common sense, so I have some experience on this topic.

On those times I used to read several times the same sentence till I fully understand its meaning. This happened again with Elektron’s manuals, some times they get pretty confusing, and I’m also a programmer and hardware designer so I read a lot of technical stuff.

May be Elektron should hire some native English speaker with experience on electronic gear manuals as an assesor/consultant for the manual planning and development stage.

If I have time I will translate them to Spanish and Portuguese.
If someone is interested please let me know.

The Analog Keys obviously has additional functions as both a controller keyboard and how thoroughly implemented is pretty important; has a multi-controller joystick; has LED’s above each/every key where from quick read of posted specs, a sound program can be assigned to each key; et al—thus, differing quite a bit from what exists as an A4 User Manual–may have the “A4 Engine within it but is really a brand new instrument from a keys playing perspective”. The Controller Function’s midi channel allocation and user configuration and how implemented is more than casual interest as well.
You were stating the blatant obvious about the A4 posted User Manual AND assuming that A4 User Manual has been sufficient for everyone even for the A4, let alone the AK, and that’s just not the case and am not alone.
Dave Smith Instruments has number of employees, including main code/programmer by the number you can count on ONE HAND, YET TWO WEEKS PRIOR to Prophet 12 release to actual SALES, the User Manual was available for download. Waldorf, another very small company, made the new Pulse 2 User Manual available long before actual sales. This practice is NOT just relegated historically to the “Big Three in Asia”.
Why?
Because in-depth specifics for keyboard synth players in all their various forms are pretty important because we each play/use keyboard synths in differing ways.
Why greet valid questions with the tired, snippy and outright disregard and respect for others whom perhaps think differently and perhaps will use an instrument much differently that the apparently existing “Group-Think” mentality? George Orwell already established how dangerous that kind of expected conformity is and can be.
The Analog Keys were created for the very ‘performance keyboard player in mind’ and with ability to have the AK sequencer RUNNING WHILE utilizing the KEYS as an external controller to our other synth racks or daisy chain of other keys/sound modules, and how complete that implementation is…and if in fact we can PLAY and RECORD dynamics such as After Touch, et al on AK keys into the AK Sequencer rather than having to go into each step as the A4 is to do this–are ALL really important for keyboard player’s workflow and yes, important for everyone new to keys as well. The prior A4 method has simply been creativity killjoy for key players as opposed to button pushers by nature and training.
This question had never been asked re: User Manual and I thought it would benefit many others, not just my own needs and is obvious others have same questions by thread’s response already, but whether by intentional or otherwise intimidation, people seem to find it easier to act as if some sort of holy line has been crossed when one or more do not fall into the Group Think and choose to think outside the box and wish to work differently and perhaps are a bit more analytical and wish for more complete documentation to truly be of use in set-ups. . It’s a thing called critical thinking…not to be confused with criticism; two different things.
@ Jon–thanks so very much for making this clear on availability of User Manual next week. The initial release amount of AK may become sold out by that time or time taken to study that User Manual, but plan like others, to purchase the AK. NOT out of pure ‘fanboyism’, but out of fervent desire for this performance oriented new instrument that indeed is a very welcome evolution of Elektron’s offerings.
FYI–a person should NOT have to qualify legitimately posted questions on this forum.[/quote]
Whats the point of your rant? I also wrote that ppl should be more patient. And Jon already stated that the AK manual will be available soon. So what else do you want from me besides trying to do a piss contest?
Gosh, i should stop answering on the internet.

Nice! Where it is?

What about the “very very soon” reveal of the new machine?

it obviously means that the frozen cube will melt before the manual will be uploaded :slight_smile:

Nice! Where it is?[/quote]
I see…PEBCAK. UTFSE.

Didn’t get it.

Didn’t get it, either. But then I “used the f***ing search engine” (UTFSE) and found out :wink:
We could also use RTFM (read the f***ing manual), which I really would like to do soon…

I see, very kind and polite :slight_smile:

The point is…you guys are bitching about not having the proper AK manual, though Elektron just stated that there will be one, so all you impatient guys and maybe girls have to do is simply wait until it is going to be released. And as i already stated before…guess you didnt read my posting properly, so let me rephrase it:

I can understand, that ppl. are impatient, but Elektron is a really small company, compared to Yamaha, Roland, Korg, and doesnt want to deliver a manual such and such weeks BEFORE a new product comes out. They want to make sure that the latest OS changes will find its way into the manual.
And besides that, for the most important features, sequencer and synth engine, you can already start reading the A4 manual. The new AK features are big but doesnt make it a totally different synth. Most features are common between AK and AF.

Or do you mean, you NEED a manual how to play on a keyboard?

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Just be patient and have some trust. Elektron has always delivered a proper manual.