Hello ,
I want to upgrade my DT to MK II , but also came to my mind pair SP404 with my OG DT instead off . Im more towords upgrade due to keeping my gear at minimum but…
Hello ,
I want to upgrade my DT to MK II , but also came to my mind pair SP404 with my OG DT instead off . Im more towords upgrade due to keeping my gear at minimum but…
it sounds like you want an octatrack.
agreed, it definitely sounds like they want an Octatrack!
If you want the workflow of an sp404, you definitely don’t want the workflow of an ot
Sp404 Mk2 and Elektron workflows are so vastly different that it destroys my 40yo hobbyist mind. Therefore my SP has to go again I guess. If you just want to use it as an additional sample player and mangler sequenced by DT it could work though. They are also quite cheap used at the moment at least in Germany (that‘s why I still hesitate to sell mine).
But if you want to minimize gear, I would always prefer the solution with just one unit.
True, but even between the SP mki and mkii the workflow is vastly different.
The mkii is kind of like menu diving purgatory. Imo!
The Digitakt is one of the most locked to the grid sequencer/samplers in its affordances/assumptions, while the SP404 is one of the least.
Yes, you can use the Digitakt for e.g. asynchronous looping, and it’s actually on of my favourite ways to use it, but the default assumptions and direction it pushes you in is intricate grid-based sequencing.
I think of the SP more so as a collection of tape loops than really a “groove box”. It does have a fairly functional sequencer, but that’s not really what it’s about. It makes a great companion piece to other gear, especially given that it works as an audio interface with mic pre and midi i/o over usb.
I personally don’t find it overly menu divey, but I’m also mainly just using it to extract loops and samples from full tracks and long modular jams, maybe apply some effects, and then transfer to / sequence from other gear. Fwiw I love the MKII possibly even more than the Digitakt (I have an OG), but I’m not sure I’d recommend it as a device to try making tracks with from start to finish for a lot of people, especially if you’re thinking sequencing rather than resampling.
But it complements the Digitakt very well, they’re each good at the things the other is bad at - sequencing vs. storage, sample editing, slicing, etc. Personally, I ended up going for the SP just after the Digi 2 launched and right now this combination is hitting the spot to the point that I don’t see myself being tempted by the Digi 2 unless/until it evolves significantly beyond where it is right now.
U know life my friend i want octa
but right now thats my budget
Im not thinking about switching completely to Sp , but like U to expand OG. I dont miss a lot from OG . But Stereo sampling and extra tracks is what i want .
I turned 40 last Saturday. Is it to much for our brains ?
I’d say save your budget for now until you can get the OT - or get a DT2. The SP 404 mkII is very very nice, but since I got the DT2 I’ve been neglecting the sp badly. Workflow wise there’s an abyss and tbh if I want to make music, I can finish a loop on the DT before I finish setting up everything on the SP.
If you’re in a hurry of working with stereo sampling, get a DT2. if you’re not in a hurry, wait until you have budget to get an OT.
From a personal perspective and for my needs, the only thing I would like on the DT2 from OT (or sp) is a better sample slicer, but I’m quite sure we’ll get that
I’m a DT person. Had the 404, and was one of those who loathed the workflow of it, just didn’t click with it. I feel the DT is way more streamlined.
This.
Do you need per track polyphony?
Not really. Also Stereo is not as necessary as “nice to have” . Og DT is my favourite, nearly perfect sampler. Dt II looks to be nice upgrade. Was thinking to add Sp already before , but now i thinking. With my limited time at the moment i want to have one sampler and yaeh… learning new workflow will definitely not add so much to my life . So decision have almost been made … I will upgrade to DT II and i hope to add Octa in the future.
With that being said, thank to all of You for advice ✌️
I might not be the best person to speak on the matter because my first hardware purchase was the SP-303 back in the day, and I’ve continued to use all of the SP iterations since then, so the mkii workflow wasn’t that big of a hurdle for me. DJ mode is great. That said, for compositional stuff I still really only use the mkii like I did all the previous models-- for easy sampling, chopping, creating new melodies with the chops, resampling etc, then bringing those into Renoise for the arrangement and mix, so I think the SP + OG DT would be a great combination, using the DT as more of an arranger + further mangling. I just didn’t get along with Elektron samplers for melody creation (same with Renoise) as it feels too programmy for my taste. Check out the 404sx if the mkii feels overwhelming.
Unless you have a fire that only stereo samples can put out, dt og is probably fine for now. If you want to upgrade and you’re ready to do it, nothing will feel more like a souped up digitakt 1 than a digitakt 2.
The market for reselling a dt 1 is absolutely shit right now though. I would almost wait (at least to sell your og dt) until things calibrate a little and the value stabilizes.
Imho the dt2 is a better sp than the sp, of course it depends on what your individual needs are but if you’re one of those people that gets an sp for sample mangling the digitakt is better and that’s with less effects because the whole sequencer itself is an effect that can be used to great affect… and after you mangle your samples you can craft your tracks with greater precision…. Not to mention control all and instant recall… the only thing the sp has that I wish the DT2 had is the skip back feature and proper slicing
Still baffles me how manual slicing is still missing on the dt2. It would otherwise be absolutely perfect.
Nonetheless, there are workarounds, even if a bit gimmicky
I think it’s coming, and hopefully it is… they are definitely aware of the need