Understanding Program Change messages

[randy909]

@Octagonist

All this aside, I agree the OT (and other Elektrons) send these messages in two circumstances. If you want to call those circumstances “types”, that’s fine.

The language is tough. I meant “type” in a more abstract way but more people seem to be interpreting it to mean “midi message type” than “OT type of program change message”.

[NoahZ]

I think this is something I was trying to understand recently. Truly bonkers

[Llanqay]

Is there a way to send pattern change to a non elektron device (korg emx in my case) for each pattern, instead of for each part? Or someway to work it around. Thanks.

[sezare56]

@Llanqay

Is there a way to send pattern change to a non elektron device (korg emx in my case) for each pattern

Welcome @Llanqay.
In the MIDI SYNC menu, you can activate Program Change Send.

[Llanqay]

Thnk you sezare56. Yes! I was trying but the problem that in emx has 4 banks of 64 patterns insted of 16 of 16, so at banc 9 patt 1 of OT it jumps back to A01 of emx. Is it possible to send program change on the arranger on each line?

[sezare56]

@Llanqay

Is it possible to send program change on the arranger on each line?

No. Only 2 ways to send PCs :

• MIDI SYNC PC Send
• MIDI TRACKS with Parts changes.

@Llanqay

emx has 4 banks of 64 patterns

So I suppose it requires Banks messages ? (CC00 or CC32).

@Llanqay

insted of 16 of 16

MIDI wise, OT actually have 2 banks of 128 patterns.

• Banks A-H patterns send PC 1-128 (Bank message value 0)
• Banks I-P patterns send PC 1-128
  (Bank message value 1)

I don’t remember which bank message is actually sent by OT (CC00 or CC32), so depending on EMX bank message, if they match, you may be able to have 2x64 banks in common (banks A-D and banks I-L)

Using octatrack to change patterns on electribe emx-1?

@PeterHanes, Program Change specialist ! I’ll add bank messages are required to change Emx-1 banks. OT sends bank messages when you switch between banks A-H and I-P, not sure it suits EMX needs. http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=48628&sid=3c1c9e9acd1a713d11f316056cf42b07

[Llanqay]

Thanks very much! I managed to arrange the patterns of the emx around to fit them into the OT pc scheme. Using just the first 8 patterns on banks 1-8 and the 8 last patterns of the last 8 banks, leaving the rest empty. Also i’m sending pc to de virus snow, this time with the other message asigned by part, cause ill use one multi patch per part of the octa.