Two questions about OT behavior

missingtwin · 2014-10-22T14:28:14.000Z

new OT owner here. amazing device. really getting into
sampling in real time, and especially mangling external
tracks via the Flex/recorder tracks.

my two questions are:

when i’m recording to a track’s buffer, and simultaneously
assigning that track to its own record buffer to record some
internal tracks, sometimes the level LED next to the MIDI
button doesn’t show the level, it just stays red. It seems to be
stuck like this for all the recorder buffers. The only way i’ve found to fix it is to reboot the OT.

The other question i have involves the same setup except
i noticed it when using an external source into the A/B inputs.
Recording to a track’s buffer and assigning that buffer to the
same track (with recorder trigs and sample trigs in place), it seems
that p-locking the pitch on the sample trigs (or using the LFO assigned
to pitch) will sometimes mute/suppress the sample trig on the
track. The sample trigs trig normally when i remove the pitch p-lock or
remove the pitch assigned LFO.

Does anyone have any experience with these two issues?

Thank you, great forum!
dbd

wascal · 2014-10-22T14:51:11.000Z

The second question sounds like something I’ve encountered before - I’ll try and replicate this evening

missingtwin · 2014-10-22T15:00:29.000Z

thank you wascal, it took me quite a while to realize
that it was the pitch parameter that was stopping the sample
trigs from sounding.

when the sample trig is p-locked to pitch and is getting muted,
if you look in the tracks recorder page, you can see the
sample trig tries to start, but gets cut off very quickly.

none of the other parameters seem to make this happen, only
pitch changes through p-locks or lfo.

udenjoe · 2014-10-22T15:04:55.000Z

1st: Is that feedback? Are you recording from the Cue source? I’m guessing your routing is causing an audio feedback.

2nd: I’ve noticed that when you have record and play trigs on top of each other, you can’t rely on the play trig always working. My guess is that the pitch processing will create a playback lag. Try micro timing your play trig to be a little later than the record trig. Or record trig earlier.

sicijk · 2014-10-22T15:43:51.000Z

#2: indeed a pitch change (upwards) involves a faster reading of the stream…and if this stream is being created at the same time of the reading TheN this should not go faster then the creation of the stream.

missingtwin · 2014-10-22T17:27:22.000Z

thank you udenjoe and sicijk

I must have a feedback loop going on somewhere, b/c the light
is just a continuous red, I’ll investigate.

…makes sense about pitching a stream that hasn’t even been written
yet. microtiming the trig, what a great idea, thanks i’ll try that!

the OT is my first elektron piece, and it does take a while to
get around it comfortably, but i’m getting it.

I put an FM radio on scan and ran that into the OT using flex
and neighbor machines (with the flex assigned to the record
buffer). At one point i just had to step back and sip my coffee
in awe. it was absolutely terrifying.

Automux · 2014-10-23T19:45:12.000Z

1 - As others have said this looks like feedback. I have seen this many times with too high of volume and a long AMP envelope release on the synth connected. In that scenario the LED would slowly fade. Try muting or just unplugging the source to test this.