Trigless trigs?

skunk3 · 2015-01-28T18:43:01.000Z

I just recently got a MnM and an A4. Can someone please explain to me in plain English just what in the heck a trigless trig is, or what I might use one for?

avantronica · 2015-01-28T18:58:01.000Z

""skunk3"":

I just recently got a MnM and an A4. Can someone please explain to me in plain English just what in the heck a trigless trig is, or what I might use one for?

can’t comment on MM, but the A4 doesn’t do trigless trigs, it has trigless locks, the OT has both trigless Trigs and Trigless locks !
on the A4 the trigless locks are a way to define parameters on a given step/trig, so called parameter locks, but without restarting the note
parameter locks can be used on trigs
if you play a single long note on step 1 and record filter changes in realtime, the sequencer will create trigless locks
if you want to add them manually you can do this too, instead of pressing the trig, just press fn+trig, then whilst holding that step down change some parameters and these will be locked at that step irrespective of what you do with the synth sound - it locks synth settings and lots more besides !

zfigz · 2015-01-28T22:10:14.000Z

""skunk3"":

I just recently got a MnM and an A4. Can someone please explain to me in plain English just what in the heck a trigless trig is, or what I might use one for?

Trigless trigs on the MNM are essentially parameter locks without the note. So whatever is on that particular trigless trig will affect the sound accordingly. If you’ve the filter closed and the amplitude lowered, you’ll hear that. You just won’t be triggering a note…so you won’t be creating sound, you’ll only be affecting it.

skunk3 · 2015-01-29T00:30:52.000Z

Thanks guys, I understand what trigless locks are now, but what is a trigless trig? The manuals aren’t very helpful.

bluewolfse7en · 2015-01-29T01:10:38.000Z

OT
Trigless lock does not trigger the note, the LFO or the FX ENV.
It just locks a Param to a step.
Trigless trig does not trigger the note but does trigger the LFO & FX ENV as well as locking any params to a step.

MM
Trigless trig won’t trig the Env.
Holding said trig & pressing Exit will remove Pitch from the Trig (Pichless Trig).

Trig Tracks on the MM give you independent control over Amp, Env & LFO trigs, see page 59-60 of the manual.

MD
Trigless trigs can be achieved by using the CTRL-8 machines since these only affect the associated Param without triggering the drum.

A4
The note menu allows you select whether or not Env & LFO are trigger by regular trigs & Trigless locks.

AR
Trig menu allows you to select what is triggered.

Confused? I’ll say

subq · 2015-01-29T04:13:45.000Z

after reading that ^

makes you think maybe they need to get some consistency across the OSs

Caelestis · 2015-01-29T06:10:09.000Z

This sounds cool, never tried trigless locks. How do they transition from one lock to another? Is it instant or does it kind of sweep?
For example if I wanted to do a cuttof sweep, would there be stepping between the locks? (for both putting them there manually or while real-time recording)

avantronica · 2015-01-29T06:52:11.000Z

""Caelestis"":

This sounds cool, never tried trigless locks. How do they transition from one lock to another? Is it instant or does it kind of sweep?
For example if I wanted to do a cuttof sweep, would there be stepping between the locks? (for both putting them there manually or while real-time recording)

Trigless locks are discretized step changes, however, you can slide from trigs to the next with a linear change, it will only change and slide a value that has been locked on either the start(slid) trig or destination trig, it works with Trigless locks too or any combo!