recorded four single tracks (hell yeah, it’s time for overbridge) out of one pattern and certain kit with the a4 two days ago and finished an arrangement with those recordings in the daw…
key and tuning is clear and i overdubbed some vocals on it and the track is a beauty…
but…
if i now let the pattern and the kit where it all came from, run with that arrangement to record some more variations of it,
it’s impossible to find the right tuning/key again…the whole a4 lines just won’t fit in anymore, no matter what i do, it sounds like crying cats next to each other…
???
…did’nt touch a4s master tune and the performance status is doublechecked…same with detune or samplerate issues in the daw…
…thanx, but…
…no…as i said…it’s no sampling frequency issue…i still can sing on top of the recording in the same key…
but the playing the realtime original pattern and kit along with it is nothing but a mess now…and NO tune fits the recording…
and sure i tried all possible and impossible transpose offsets to get there again…
but i’m pretty sure, i did’nt transpose this one in first place…
performance settings are all back on default…and i tried all tweaking posssible inbetween to find the trick…
but there is no such thing…
i dont’t have the absolute ear…but the whole a4 suddenly sounded out of tune in itself…
i had that feeling a few times already, when switching on patterns first time again the next days…but never recorded before…so now i got a reference for the first time…
and i definitly can say, patterns and kits don’t show up the same again…not even near to something you could call a total recall…
Is it possible that the Oscillators have becom detuned? I ask because when Osc TUN is pushed to its limits like if you modulate it for a quick extreme pitch drop it will also detune the FIN parameter to it’s limits. This is very annoying because the FIN parameter does not return to normal even when the TUN is set back to whatever it was before it was slammed down all the way. I’m not sure if it behaves this way in performance mode as I don’t really use it but if you just turn TUN up or down all the way you’ll see it affect FIN also.
…have a night session in front of me…gonna check that fine tune thing…
sounds exactly like what could have happend…
because every third and fith transpose offset sounded close somehow but awfully right next to it…
transposing just another half tone and it was awfully next to it the other way around…and after five minutes i could tell green from red anymore…
so, pretty sure, it’s that damned fine tune…did’nt check on single parameters, since i’ve never left the performance mode since capturing the kit…
what does your midi input look like? empty ? unplug everything from the A4 ! …
also if you have it connected via usb, make sure you unplug all unneeded cables, you may have a midi (feeback) loop that detunes your a4, or send kit adjust parameters …
so plug all out, restart a4, let her warm up, reload the kits SEVERAL times, go easy on her …
check osc res boost, check (obvious, but i still metntion it) the ARP section (+ - notes) … the transpose section… … listen with headphones (maybe blown speaker (super far fetched idea)
load another project AFTER saving the current one, and see what happens if you reload your patterns and kits …
also double check the pattern bank vs the kit … to rule out whether the error is coming from KIT vs Pattern
just my 2 ct …
on a side note: if I hear somebody say " I can sing along my melody in the same pitch / key " I immediatly feel like a toddler crawling inside a space shuttle from nasa …
EDIT : final idea : in the performance menue do you have multiple voices checked or unchecked, and then maybe voice stealing or unison by accident?
no2 : was there a osc drift on off option somewhere?
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good thinking Batman, eeeh, Baddcr I mean
in theory : even if the lfo is NOT in free mode, what would happen IF a plock had the LFO in question set to FREE (which would not revert the other lfo values to NOT free ) … then one would have to go through each and every trig and check right?
If you want the ( free -running ) LFO’s to stay in phase you only have to lock them on the first step of the pattern. (>lfo -trig ).
when all LFO’s or in TRIG - and you lock one step on FREE - - the LFO just won’t restart .
So it’s normal - with LFO pitch-modulation - (Free -running - NO Locks)
that every time you restart a pattern it will sound different.
What makes the ELECTRON so special is that u can have a free-runnig LFO sinked !!! ( by locking 1 step in TRIG ) .
( it can be interesting to lock the start of the LFO’s cicle on the same trig )
I don’t know any synth with this option. But I don’t know many synt’s in depth.
I think this is one of the most important features of these instruments
…i have daily rehearsals these days…for a stage show…i got an octatrack / a4 live rig on wheels dedicated for this project…about 250 shows to come…
…it’s gonna be all live with additional cello and me singing on top…
…and the much i love the a4, it drives me mad…
…i produce a lot and if there would’nt be the miracle of total recall, i would have long died of brain cancer…
…and the a4 is only 8 weeks old but gives me all that hussel i’d never thought about again in 15 years…
analog synthesis/digitally controled…hmmmmm…
everyday i switch on and have the feeling something has changed…
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don’t get me wrong…
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.it’s all there how i left and saved it…but it’s not…somehow…i dunno…
To be sure the LFO’s are at 0 - push fuction while turnig the button ( willset at exactly o ) - what you need to see is ( 0 ) and not just 0.
Have you checked if some LFO’S are in use in the FX ?
Is there any Midi coming in ?
Are U using the same Kit for different patterns- in this case changing sounds i in one pattern will change that sound in all patterns using this same Kit. To avoid this - make a new Kit for every pattern
!!! LET YOUR INSTRUMENTS WARM-UP for at least 5 Minutes !!! better 10 min or more - or it will for sure sound different.!
