The 2 voices outputs 1/2 and 3/4 of the Töörö are 3.5mm outputs. You are talking about 1/8.
Eighth inch(1/8”) is a U.S. name for the 3.5mm connector. So I just meant 3.5mm TRS.
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I’m sorry, misunderstood. Thanks, appreciate the help!
No portamento on Tooro?
Just ordered a 2nd hand Tooro. 
Read it is MPE ready in the manual !
(From 1.60)
Anybody tried SYSEX for user tables ?
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Firmware Release Notes
V1.60: (18.08.23)
- Sustain / hold pedal (CC64) support
- Fixing performance issue with note lists
- 2 zone MPE support (using part 1 & part 2 settings)
- Holding “EXIT” at power up sets standard MPE mode
single zone / master channel 1 / member channels 2 to 16
with pitchbend sensitivity +/-48 semitones - RPN 00 for pitchbend sensitivity (MPE mode only)
- RPN 06 for zone configuration (MPE mode only)
- Change to voice allocator, stealing of (pedal) sustained notes allowed
- Loading preset only clean relative part state
- MIDI LED (display right dot) inverted in MPE mode
V1.50:
- Tempo setting from panel | in BPM, from 1 to 199
- Changed arp subdivisions “grid” | in ticks, from 48 to 6
- Fixing arp performance problems
- Double click on EXIT switch => MIDI panic
- Instant display clearing when exiting matrix mode
- Edited part displayed on “system” button press
- Changed OSC detune range | in cents, from -99 to +99
- MIDI realtime events are passed to MIDI-OUT
- Pitchbend range setting (cc) | in semitones, from 0 to 127
- Master tuning setting (cc) | in cents, from -99 to +99
- Changing preset flags triggers all notes off
- Adding a revision number to presets and multis
V1.42:
- adding new sysex messages for the editor
- fixing a crash on calibration saving
V1.40 (golden master):
- Fixing USB MIDI related bugs
- MIDI CC smoothing re-enabled
- Factory reset clears Multi 0
- Factory reset reloads configuration
V1.30-rc7:
- Fixing an other USB MIDI bug
V1.30-rc4:
- Adapting USB device code to fully support MacOS
- No regular MIDI messages are sent within sysex transfers
V1.30-rc3:
- Adding more factory presets (bank is up to slot 50)
V1.30-rc2:
- Adding sysex support for edited preset params
- Changing calib. table dump & request services
V1.30-rc1:
- Factory presets recall (by pressing PRESET at startup)
- Improving multi-fx algorithms
- Fixing regular sysex dump & requests
- Fixing flash manager
- Correcting various bugs
V1.20-rc6:
- Adding a “vibrato” based on LFO2
- Changing LFO2 default speed
- Vibrato is disabled when setting a modwheel destination
V1.20-rc5:
- Fixed negative modulation amounts
- Env. aftertouch param only affects sustain stage
- Matrix mode exit-timeout is set to 8 seconds
V1.20-rc4:
- Tempo ranges from 20 - 199 BPM
- Display scheme of tempo has changed
V1.20-rc3:
- No MIDI Program Change sent on preset load (loop problem)
- Fixing UP2
V1.20-rc2:
- Fixing mono mode behavior
- Less aftertouch on filter cutoff (init preset)
- Anti MIDI feedback loop system
V1.20-rc1:
- Fixing arpeggio behavior (normal / hold)
- Correcting stuck notes and crash
- Arp hold is displayed no / ho
- Multi presets are reloaded when multi init / paste
- Improved calibration result
- Improved multi-fx performance and sound
- Adjusting init preset configuration
- Fixing multi-fx distorsion after calibration
V1.10-rc3:
- Mod. matrix pitch range
- Adjusting shapers resonance range
- Fixing shapers fast mod. related issues
- Default selected shaper is HP
V1.10-rc2:
- Working retrig. in mono mode
- Fixed note “top priority” for retrig.
- Discarding ON1 & ON2 env. retrig. options
- Discarding overall glide support
- CC86 is for pitchbend range
- Matrix mod. amounts are sent via MIDI CC
- CC and Program Change messages are sent on the right part channel
- Longer delay before “auto-exit” in mod. matrix mode
- Program Change message sent on recalling a multi
V1.10-rc1:
- New arpeggio with hold on/off instead of gate length
- Better envelope curve (expo) / time range
- Fixed envelope hold time
- More LFO waveforms (MW / Slew / AM)
- New LFO envelope (expo)
- LFO phase control instead of fall time
- Fixed Multi save & recall (preset id stored)
- Improved calibration (faster and accurate procedure)
- Automatic triggering of calibration
- Calibration stored on external flash
- Pitch(PI) instead of pitch bend(PB) as modulation source
- Selection of Multi with sys + encoder 3
- Selection of Channel with sys + encoder 2
- Double click on Vol/Mix => poly on / off
- Improved voice recycling algorithm
- Reduced feedback amount on multifx
- Fixing various MIDI clocking issues
- Fixing aftertouch scaling in modulation matrix
V1.03:
- Removing DC plop at voice startup
- Reducing digital artefacts in audio out
V1.02:
- Fixing various bugs in calibration routine
- Fixing check routine for calibration recall on startup
- Faster calibration routine
- Analog filters garanteed to close when set to 0
- No more overflow in modulation matrix
- Matching CC RX/TX for envelopes
V1.01:
- Internal - skipped
V1.0-rc2:
- Multis are displayed Mx, with x the multi index
V1.0-rc1:
- Removing the performance indicator
- Improving multi-fx (mono / stereo / chorus)
- Default fx configuration in multi preset
- Progressive curve in mod. matrix amounts
- Fixing various performance bugs
V0.32:
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Program change reception (multimode) fixed
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Program change sent
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Default modulation targets in init preset
PRESET_EF_TARGET → TARGET_OSC_SYNC1
PRESET_EA_TARGET → TARGET_OSC_FMAMOUNT1
PRESET_L1_TARGET → TARGET_OSC_WAVE1
PRESET_L2_TARGET → TARGET_RING
PRESET_WHEEL_TARGET → TARGET_FILTER_CUTOFF
PRESET_BEND_TARGET → TARGET_OSC_SYNC2
PRESET_VELO_TARGET → TARGET_OSC_WAVE1
PRESET_AFTER_TARGET → TARGET_LFO_SPEED1 -
CC17, CC18, CC19, CC20 => Mod. amount (EF, EF, L1, L2)
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CC87, CC88, CC89, CC90 => Mod. amount (MW, PB, VL, AF)
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Reduce voice calculation footprint
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Removed notch shaper
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Combining delay and chorus fx (not finished yet)
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Updating display
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Various performance improvements
V0.31:
- MIDI CC smoothers fixed
- Display & 7seg charset updates
- Matrix mod acronyms now correspond to display
- Random table triggered by chords “RC” instead of arp restart “RA”
- Alt behavior (lock + exit changing line)
- Matrix mod timeout: auto leave from matrix mod after 2 sec of inactivity
- Renamed LFO waveforms
- New wavetable generative algorithm
- MIDI activity on CC witness on display
- Faster encoder scrolling / less resolution
V0.30:
- Polyphonic aftertouch support
- Fixing DIN MIDI parsing
- ALT lock (double click = lock)
- Vol/Bal double click => poly mode toggle
- Clean + Preset => reload preset from flash
- Clean + Multi => reload multi from flash
- Clean => unlock ALT on release
V0.29:
- Arpeggiator immediate start
- Fixing active sensing bug
- Improved audio task performance
- Fixing delay saturation
V0.28:
- Improved encoders reading
- Better calibration procedure
- New “blue” noise waveform
- Restored former ring modulator
V0.27:
- Fixing broken calibration
- New encoder scanning / acceleration algorithm
- Dropping user table entries
- Improving encoder leds curve
- More feedback on delay
V0.26:
- Use the internal voltage reference for ADC & DAC
Improves multi-fx noise figures
(requires hardware patch on PCBs rev <= 3.4)
V0.25:
- Fixing calibration (really broken since 0.10)
- Fixing UI bug when MIDI empty display
V0.24:
- Disabling the multi-fx DAC when not in use
- Fixing external flash driver status request
V0.23:
- Fixing calibration
- Fixing remaining MINUS dot
V0.22:
- Shaper ef-amount => ea-amount
- Shaper l1-amount => l2-amount
- Multi volume & pan transmit MIDI CC 07 & 10
- Corrected CC number for shaper LFO amount
- Fixing copy / paste function
- Multis can now be copy / pasted
- Simplified multi / preset saving procedure
- Simplified UI & display code
- Display always shows parameter when turning encoders
V0.21:
- Fixing the oscillators FM
V0.20:
- Adding 4 new waveforms from Benoit’s collection
- Removing RL mode (creating table on LFO end-of-cycle)
- Adding startup animation with firmware rev. displayed
- Adding preset copy and paste functions
- Full MIDI CC support (rx & tx) (see the list)
- Fixing sysex working buffer size related bugs
V0.12:
- Adding preliminary factory and user tables
- Adding on-the-fly generation of tables (RO, RN, RL)
RO = Random Once / RN = Random Note / RL = Random LFO1 - Various UI encoder led fixes
- “Master voice” detection algorithm
- Changing preset storage / loading format (again)
V0.11:
- Better filtering in multi-fx
- Chorus models (first version - Mono, Stereo, String)
V0.10:
- Multi-fx in floating point
- Fixing bugs introduced in V0.09
V0.09:
- Fixing bug in calibration
- Updated USB descriptor version
V0.08:
- Increased encoders sensitivity
- Changed preset storage format
- Changed multi storage format
- Fixing various bugs in flash driver
- Preset / multis load and store
- Improved displayed content when in matrix
- Smoothed VCF CV control
- Correcting audio glitches when browsing presets
- MIDI active sensing
V0.07:
- Improved sync precision and compensation
- Increased oscillators output level
- Increased ring-modulator saturation
- Triangle wave phase reversed
- Enveloppes hold time
- Velocity on enveloppes
- Aftertouch on enveloppes
- Correcting various stability issues
V0.06:
- Better sounding auto-synchronisation
- Correcting some oscillator glitches
- Ring modulator = ring + distorsion
and make use of oscillators levels
V0.05:
- Integration of new oscillator waveforms
Sine, Triangle, Square, Saw, Noise, Bell1, Bell2, Bell3 - Improving harmonics in low pitch
- Fixing wave interpolation overflows
V0.04:
- Fixing calibration procedure bug
(introduced in version 0.03) - Fixing delay before validation of last in a row SPI3 job
V0.03:
- Proper start / stop / continue message handling
- Better clock tracking
- Fixed MIDI filter output latency
- Fixed SPI3 bus manager (audio & display glitches)
- Proper load and store from external flash
- Proper checking of presets and multi loaded from flash or sysex
- Wrong saturation in delay FX + louder mix
- Wrong root pitch of oscillators
- Fixing a bug in MIDI stack related to running status & sysex
- Selection of dest slot (multi & preset) with encoder while saving
V0.02:
- Arp modes (up, down, random, up2, down2, up4, down4)
- Clocking internal / external
- Bipolar parameters from -512 to 512
- Correcting “sources” UI refresh bug
- Display of arp tempo
- Updated arp gate parameter range
- Correcting errors in MIDI filtering
- Firmware rev. number in USB descriptors
V0.01: initial internal release
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I am not aware of any soundpack been created for the Töörö. Can anybody confirm?
I did my research already. You are linking to a sample pack.
I am referring to custom patches that can be sent to the device. There’s a github with the factory patches and a couple more sounds, but I think that’s it.
If you’ve found something else I’d be happy to know.
Glad to see a little activity on this great synth. I don’t know if it is explicitly stated anywhere, but it also supports polyphonic aftertouch when using AT as a mod source or for the “hard wired” modulations. That was a nice surprise.
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In the manual I guess…
And I think I read it here :
https://www.perfectcircuit.com/freds-lab-tooro.html#:~:text=At%2070x120mm%20(~2.75x4.
Or in release notes.
Good to remind it anyway !
I hope Tooro will suits my needs !
I had A4, Tetra, Minifreak, Pro 800, thought about Peak…
I’ve had all of those except for the Pro 800. IMO it has the best filter of all of that group with just enough modulation/complexity to keep it interesting. Definitely is a “character” synth which is what I’m always looking for.
In terms of form factor/price, the micromonsta 2 is probably the closet comp. The MM2 sounds great and it is more versatile as a do it all synth but the Tooro really do have a unique sound. Your enjoyment will probably come down to how you feel about programming on a matrix.
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Good to have such positive appreciation !
MS 10 like filter from I read ?
I have MM2, my favorite VA (with Hydrasynth.)
They should pair perfectly, Yin Yang spirit !
I took the red pill. 
At least there is one matrix !
The most important for me is filters.
V2 in the works
https://www.instagram.com/p/DbAbMxOsMJZ/?igsh=cDEzeTUzM2h5bG9t
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I really enjoyed the Tooro…might have to get one of these V2.
That’s exciting… the original was an excellent-sounding synth, somewhat hampered by it’s tiny interface.
Sounds like it might be possible to replace the main board in the Tooro mk1 to make it a mk2. That would be very tempting.
I didn’t gel with V1 sounds…Not fond of 12 bit and zipper noise…
Keeping an eye on V2 though…I like the concept and form factor…
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“Affordable”. For the same price you can get an Analog Four MKI…
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