Amazing explanation, thank you! And amazing song. I’m sold! I wonder if it’s update in the hardware with the new white S-4? I had three black S-4 with all encoder issues…
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No hardware update, just color… It seems that new firmware will finish with encoder issues and clicks mayhem… 
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From the Torso Discord.
“We have looked into the jumpy behaviour with the SELECT encoder and we have found a solution from the software side to tune the encoder so it doesn’t jump values as seen in the video.
We are pushing this in a firmware release as soon as possible.”
Lets hope for the best
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Mmm how?
100% agreeing with this, I also sold my S4 and replaced with a Tonverk. The only feature I miss is the 48-band resonant filter bank. Aside from the obvious bugs what mostly frustrated me is that there is practically no sequencer in the S4, but tempo synced loops/time stretching didn’t work correctly either. I don’t remember the exact problem, but timing sucked and things started drifting which was crazy frustrating. The other problems was the clicks and the audio dropouts when you have too much going on.
The last nail in the coffin was reading about the jumpy encoder issues others had. Somebody on Discord replaced their faulty encoder and said that it was a nightmare due to the S4’s PCB design. A software workaround is fine, but I didn’t want to deal with hardware that’s too hard to fix even for someone with proper equipment.
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Tune parameter, on page 1.
That’s acting on the sample, not on grains, or am I missing something?
True, though isn’t the audio effect essentially the same?
No, it acts on grains and not among the whole sample
Don’t have an S4, just pointing out that pitch adjustment is possible on TV even if it doesn’t appear to work the same way.
it’s the general tune of the instrument you’re talking about, like the main sample player that’s feed into the granular effect. in my message i explicitly said “pitch of the grains”, which is smt that exists in most -if not all- granular devices mankind had ever seen.
this is like saying “i just wanted to point out that those are in fact burger buns” to someone complaining the pattie doesn’t even exist
This is a really solid analysis of the S4. I’m using my octatrack to sequence it and find I can create remarkable soundscapes very easily.
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I own them both now but i’m not sure which direction i should go with the audio, now i’m feeding the S-4 to the to tonverk, how you guys feed it?
How are you going about it, since you not really can sequence notes?
Not sure what you mean as you can sequence notes via midi from the Octatrack to the S4 in ‘poly mode’. It becomes a synth of sorts.
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This!
Asking you bc you have both - can the tonverk take a big stem multitrack sample and allow you move between parts of it like scene changes in s4?
What I’ve tried so far is: assign one long sample to multiple Subtrack keys, changing the start and end point for each key.
But I don’t know about multitrack samples if you mean multiple tracks in one WAV file. If you mean stems split in to a WAV file per track, that should work fine.