I highly recommend The Bull in Oxted. Food is next level delicious!
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Literally never expected to hear that pubs name on here!
(but its in Surrey BTW)
Food is very good!
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So I tried in Firefox instead of Safari and happy to report that it worked great in first try. I just drag & dropped all the Juno note samples and it sliced automatically the different files into a multi sampled instrument.
I can finally really use the sample from mars samples! thanks again for the help
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Glad to catch this, Ive been struggling with MESET so maybe its Safari that’s the issue.
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This is an alternative
Works good.
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Safari works fine for me 
Soon as I load a sample in the save button vanishes.
And me I could not drag and drop samples. Was just able to load one sample at a time. Not ideal with the hundreds of wav notes of the samples from mars packs
No issue with firefox
If there are Issues specifically with MESET, there’s a thread created by the author 
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Am I the last person on Elektronauts to discover you can P-Lock the sample start and end points?
Basically slicing then? 
Why were people complaining about that?
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no matter how useful something is there will be some other thing that can do one specific function more easily or in a way someone likes better and they’ll want that on all the products that can do anything similar. some of that makes sense, some of it is trying to jam square pegs into round holes.
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That was my take on all the early outrage.
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I think some of the stuff is pretty valid, there’s a lot missing that you can’t say Elektron didn’t plan on because it was pieces of their already standardized sampler workflow and design language. Also a lot of stuff that’s there is far more ready to go than people are giving credit for but it’s hard to see that through bugs or incomplete MIDI configuration or if it requires you to completely change how to you use sampled drums (like slicers vs subtracks). I think there’s no reason you can’t just use a subtrack as an 8-grid slicer or convert a 64 slice wav to a multisample instrument though, even if it’s not as speedy as a lazy chop or grid slicing.
But there’s always people on every new sampler that want to know why it isn’t an MPC or why it isn’t a machinedrum or whatever. Sometimes adding the features they’re missing really would be great and other times it clearly misses the point that you’re actually not supposed to interact with it like it’s an MPC. The bento has the same types of issues but what is missing and what is there are surprisingly different things than with Tonverk considering the nominally similar functionality on paper. In fact, each machine seems to already have the exact features I wish the other would have. So at least for my use the two dev teams are presently in a race they don’t know or care about to get it to where I just have one of the two and use it for all my music.
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Slicing isn’t always about finding specific chops. I often randomize slicing to explore sound design in ways that aren’t meant to be “on the grid”.
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I can see both ways of looking at it.
If you want to slice on TV there’s loads of ways to do it. Plock start and end, or randomise the start point via LFO with a short release on the sample works well too. And for something more permanent, copy the same sample into multiple subtrack slots and set each start point individually to play them on the keys. It’s fun.
As for the complaints I think this is all part of the mystery of the future of Tonverk, as we don’t really know what’s coming next. But taking it at face value, when a company launches a sampler at that price point, asking for more ways to process your samples doesn’t feel unreasonable to me. It would seem brave to leave it off, simply because more or less every sampler on the market can slice.
My hope is that we see those features ported over to Tonverk, even if it takes time. But it’s already good, and once the bugs are clear and some of the workflow kinks are ironed out, it will be a brilliant box.
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It is right now, but I take your point
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Well articulated but I still hear a lean towards square peg round hole there. I don’t observe that it was meant to be the same as everything else just with a splash of polyphony. The concept is clearly different, sampling and editing on it takes on a more purposeful flavour that’s all. Approach it from that angle and it gets clearer to see the answer to all the whys/why nots. That’s my take anyway and it’s allowing me to love it today.
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I gave a tour of my Tonverk to someone who makes music for a living and while they were not eager to get one due to bugs and lack of certain features (like multisample naming), we both agreed that it still sounds really good.
We were in a professional studio, in a treated room with proper speakers, and I was really surprised by how much better some of the effects sounded in such an environment. There were subtle details to be found and finetuned.
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Yep, the sound quality is amazing. Used a single cycle waveform as an “analog” mono bass synth last night - something I never got right on the DT2, and was very happy with the results. The core sound was instantly great, but it seemed subtle modulation produced a more detailed, nuanced sound than I could get before.
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Yeah absolutely. I’ve been enjoying it (mainly why I’ve done so many posts in TV sound, which is what it’s all about.) My main thought here is that because its so capable of running longer loops, I can see the use case for slicing/stretching. What’s making that convo a tad easier, is that I’m getting into it paired with other things. Initially it was my only box, bit and I’m finding that it shines in pairings, where initially I probably wanted it to do everything. In a little setup though it has a more specific place. It’s a fun thing whichever way it goes from here.
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