Tonverk: User Thread

Works fine for me on macOS

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I am on macos too… will need to check what’s wrong

Working fine here

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Has anyone hit a p-lock limit yet? I’ve collected a lot of Elektron gear over the years and aggressively use p-locks in my sequencing. The DN2 was the latest machine I grabbed prior to TV and the marketing for that at some point referenced a bigger scope for p-locks and I hit the limit in my first pattern haha. Pretty sure I’ve used more than I did in that instance on the TV but wondering how close to the sun I’m flying. Keen to hear if anyone’s hit a limit and how far you managed to get before that point (not looking for a specific number just a vague idea like “multiple locks on most of my steps, eventually hit it” etc.)

It says that it is possible to copy patterns:

page 74: [FUNC] + [RECORD] to copy the active pattern

but when i’m in pattern mode and do this it just seems to enable record for selected track, and does not copy the pattern.

Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong, as it is a complete pain not to be able to copy patterns?

I don’t own a TV but doesn’t this just work like on all the other Elektrons ie: You press func + record without being in any mode? (so you don’t need to be in pattern select mode)

ah… that could be my issue. will try this when home from work.

thanks!

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Make sure you press pattern then select the pattern number you want to copy - the active pattern screen will then pop up, make sure it does. Then do as you say - func+copy, select new pattern then func+paste.

For me is the monophonic approach of the subtracks a big sound issue. Nothing sounds right, you need special sounds / setups to prevent Klicks and Pops. Each subtrack should have a least a parameter eg. 1-4 Number of Polyphony.

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Is there a way to do generative (or semi-generative) melodies locked into a particular scale on the Tonverk?

Does anyone else often have to wait a few minutes after using usb-disk mode to see the multi-instruments and subtract sounds show up? Sometimes I have to wait after just switching it on, too.

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Not sure if this answers your question, but something I do when jamming out new ideas is to simply go up whatever scale on all 16 steps of a pattern, then set low probability on each step. From there, I record way more than I need into Logic and chop up the sections that sound the nicest to me.

EDIT- Of the many things I love about the Octatrack, one huge thing is you can assign an LFO to pitch while staying in a given scale. Granted, it’s a very limited amount of different scales, but it’s there and I wish every Elektron box had this

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A nice aspect of TV is that individual notes within a chord can have their own TRCs, so it’s naturally a little more flexible for playing more than one note per step, but it’s possible to thin out the probability of notes appearing and get controlled evolving variations

Naturally this takes a bit of setting up, but it’s got more potential than any other Elektron for melodic/harmonic variation within an individual step

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Yet another sweet trick I need to learn :slight_smile:
I have no idea how to set this up, but I’ll figure it out.
I think many Elektron boxes have the nice quality that you can just dive in and make music pretty quickly, then learn a new small trick as you go. I’d written an hour long set on the TV that I liked without out really knowing how to use the damn thing :slight_smile:

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nice observation - polyphonic conditionality!

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no doubt, but for others curious it’s centred around editing within the STEP EDIT mode

on a new pattern load the first multi on track 1 for expediency, then enter grid record mode and whilst holding the 1st trig place a simple triad by placing the three notes simultaneously on the mini keys … this is a familiar Elektron method


So unlike Grid Record Edit mode (steady record led), where the active steps are shown in red on the trig keys, you are fully within STEP EDIT when the selected Trig step is permanently illuminated green … that’s what you’re aiming for

You see it go temporarily green when holding a grid edit trig step down, this gesture illuminates the position of notes within a chord on that step and allows dynamic reprogramming of the notes - the step edit button is dim when you temporarily press the trig down this way - notes are entered by stacking, so if entering C maj triad, press and hold C then tap E then G, you have a triad - if you e.g. press C, lift, then Press E, it will erase C and swap it for E, you can’t toggle notes here, it’s for quick re-reprogramming

If you press and hold the Trig step of interest down (the one with a chord) and then press the step edit button, that STEP EDIT button lights fully red and the target trig is now latched bright green, now the notes within the chord you already added earlier are toggle-able so you can add or subtract from a chord, but crucially, if you hold the piano key down, it behaves like a normal trig and it has its own trig parameters … so any note within a chord can have its own PROB and/or COND

So as a quick test the chord you placed on trig one, do the same on a different trig, then press play and vary the overall track probability to 25%, you should hear different notes pop out from the chord/scale … it’s already clear that PROB is acting on each note separately, this makes it easy to stumble across

If instead you want to get more detailed, just parameter lock the note’s PROB/COND within the STEP EDIT MODE by holding the respective mini NOTE down and adjusting the TRIG page condition / probability or other parameters


a case of wishful thinking ..

One irritation is that a configured Trig cannot be copied to multiple destination trigs yet

EDIT : this has never been possible, i was misremembering that it’s possible with patterns, just not trigs; many trigs (including gaps) can be pasted to one position, but one trig can’t be pasted into to many positions

so if you set up a Trig and configured low % COND using the mini keys for locking, you can’t simply copy that trig and press a number of target trigs and have them paste correctly, it only pastes the first (unlike other elektrons)

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That’s an interesting idea – I’ll give it a try. How do you do the thing you described in the Octatrack? I didn’t know you could work within a scale using the LFO.

YES - I keep meaning to ask about this so thank you for letting me know I’m not the only one.

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I just want to emphasise this because there’s an anomaly

if you have a chord, or a scale pre-entered for picking from on a trig and no PROBABILITY set at all yet there are at least three ways the probability can play out …

i) You set general (un-locked) ‘track’ probability e.g. 20% and each note is targeted differently within each step

ii) You set a parameter lock (in grid edit mode) for the step trig e.g. 20% now the step as a whole has a 20% chance of firing

iii) You instead (as described above) directly set each note of the chord or scale (hold groups of multiple notes and set all to e.g. 20%) and each individual note now has a 20% chance of firing

ii and iii will eventually look the same when editing in detail, but the origins of entry manifests in a different outcome

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this has a lot of potential, thanks for sharing in such detail. How about enabling arp mode after setting up a chord like this?

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