To Soundcloud or not to Soundcloud?

Alonetone seems like a good (enough) alternative. I will try it if I ever feel the need to upload something again.
I think it still doesn’t have an embed audio player for external websites, unfortunately, but otherwise seems great.

I already left SoundCloud some months ago.
After using it for more than a decade (since beta) I was a bit sad to delete my account - but anyway surely it was not the same website at all anymore.

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I do too.
But as a creator, I generate 32x more listening from other people than I actually listen to SoundCloud.
Let’s keep in mind that without the creators, SoundCloud is an empty shell.

More than this, I’m actually paying them because I actually want to support them.
I even contribute to fighting the evil spam that clutter their platform, that’s how I can’t stand advertising.

Regarding YT, I uninstalled the iOS application the day a nice and long ambient track was cut in the middle by an advertising. Advertising between the tracks is already a PITA, but cutting a track is a no-go for me.
Brave web browser takes care of advertising, so I can still use YT. Otherwise I would just make without.

SoundCloud is this close to get out of my life.

It might not be totally an alternative, but I do support bandcamp, I really like their approach.

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Does Bandcamp let you take the same approach with having your own playlists that are private, etc?
This is what I do like about Soundcamp… it’s enabled me to categorise a lot of different projects that I work on in parallel.

it’s frustrating dealing with advertising annoyances on services for which you’ve already paid. i haven’t seen much of that on soundcloud but am annoyed by all the spammers. to be viable, services like these have to change money to keep running. the revenue models are either paid or ad supported. if someone comes up with a better model, millions of people would be interested.

haven’t checked it myself but recently became aware of this platform: https://audius.co

Nope. You can only add to favorites and listen by album, although there are official playlists.
It’s just not an alternative, something else diffrently.

…funfacts…

soundcloud is one of the two big streaming farms that are trying to establish the user centrified paymodel…which is, once all streamingfarms finally can agree on this, and that day will come, the point where serious sonic creators can actually really start to make a living from streaming…

i know some of the guys who invented soundcloud…they were truu early adopter inventor nerds to what it’s ALL at right now…they gave me a special account in the zero years and, shame on me, i never used it for any releasing…hmmmpf.
could’nt see the truu future purpose of it back then…

and hey, billie eylish released her very first song “ocean eyes” on soundcloud…THAT started her whole around the globe fame thing…!!!
speaking of which and by the way, anybody seen the latest bond movie already…?.. :wink:

at least for dropping personal mixtapes, soundcloud is with no doubt the best option out there to find…

for everyone who wants to release but want to avoid the other big streaming farms for whatever reason, a soundcloud profile and one on bandcamp is pretty much a must…

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I like soundcloud and have a paying subscribtion since a few years - really worth it. I wishit would support HD codec , but besides that its very good.

I’m going to revive this topic as I can’t find any other relevant enough, I’m looking for alternative to SC, I can live with the weird ass bots but I really hate the limited storage and 128 kbps butchering, and the price they ask is ridiculous for amateur imo, if they had something in between just for the unlimited or maybe reasonable limit I would pay, but $100/y is a bit much just for storing mp3 and playing them back in shitty quality.
I’ve had my eye on AudioMack which looks decent, obviously without the “community” but it’s also looks sales oriented with lots of marketing for stuff I’m not necessarily going to use.
so, is there any alternative to SC for just uploading work there without the whole “monetization” around it but just for uploading and sharing?

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You can share music on your own web server.

Can you private share on a public thread on here?

I did a remix and the acapella got flagged.

Could I have left it private and still post it here avoiding the copyright strike?

I would prefer something like Myspace, Bandcamp or Patreon. That way I can decide what I want to watch and when without being distracted and I can get more done in the day. It’s past that point for me right now and it’s reducing our attention spans, ruining our relationships, destroying our communities, it’s degrading people. If you check Google carefully, you’ll see that it has billions of search results, but have you tried it? You need something called the Wayback Machine to find old websites. I’m at war with algorithms. Take reddit for example, if you don’t say what’s trending and popular you get downvotes or bluntly attacked. Although i had a great reach and way more listeners then followers. And if that means I have to do everything on my own, then so be it.

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Bumping this up rather than start a new thread.

All I use SC for is creating private playlists to share tracks in progress with collaborators in the cloud.
I don’t have any ‘public’ releases, so just use it for private playlists and sharings.
I like having the app across my devices to be able to listen to tracks wherever I am.

Are there any better options?

I can’t believe how much Soundcloud has dropped off. It’s one of the worst cases of self-sabotage ever seen on all my decades on the Internet.

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while typically i would agree, after being so annoyed with the choices they have made for more than the last decade, i feel like they have actually started making some smart choices in the past two years.

if they brought back groups they would really be letting everyone know that they learned a lesson

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Sincere Q: what are those smart choices? I have to ask because I barely use it any more.

the new features they have in Soundcloud for Artists are nice.

i like their monetization program where portions of pro subscriber’s subscription fee goes directly to their most listened to artists. not that im raking in big bucks but the model seems like it is forward thinking. compared to something like spotify, on soundcloud i’ve earned one dollar off of like 2k streams. just seems like a step in the potentially right direction if we are gonna keep trying to monetize streaming.

their “new track boost” option works surprisingly well, i have gotten more listeners and likes and engaged followers in the past year than i have in the past 15 years ive been on soundcloud. and they are real people, against all odds.

the bot problems seem to have chilled out considerably, maybe they have chilled specifically on my account for some reason but i used to get at least three bot interactions on every new upload, now it happens maybe once every other week or so. still gotta block and report them when they pop up tho.

their distribution to other streamers is still kind of a hot mess but i havent really tried to use that enough to have a full opinion. they just keep denying artwork for my releases because they think they have text in the pictures. i dont know its annoying so i stopped trying.

their support is still horrible, seems they have pumped some funds into their app development which has been helpful but every part of their support system blows.

Interesting - ta for the thorough reply.

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I knew it would happen that sooner or later I’d run out of space with the free option. Not really willing to invest any money into any service for my mediocre tinkering with sounds. On the other hand I feel bad about some of the links I’ve been sharing on Elektronauts going dead if I delete something. Identifying and replacing all these would be close to impossible I fear.

I know some people just create secondary/tertiary accounts in that case.
Any other ideas, thoughts would be welcome.

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its hard to recommend a subscription with how expensive its gotten. its the only subscription service i use across the board so its easy to justify for myself since im not spending money on things like spotify, netflix, other services, etc. but its basically $20 a month which is definitely expensive for what you get.

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I am facing the same question (without the Soundcloud part) and my two options for now are:

  • Bandcamp: everything on free and using it as a dump for sound. Don’t do that, see below why I have bad ideas :wink:
  • Self-hosting with Faircamp: Faircamp (or other alternatives but I like faircamp).

I think for my own tinkering and noise, I will go towards Faircamp and find some cheap hosting services (or if you don’t care to provide only mp3, Github could be enough). Well that would be me graduating from the What’s coming from your machine topics.

my 2cents.

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