@Zo Definitely DT over MPC. Minimal learning curve to a ST user, more creative sample mangling than the MPC. You can run your ST into its compressor. Will integrate nicely with the ST.
The MPC offers decent instruments and effects. More a case of quantity over quality. Doesn’t offer conditional trigs. It’s a complete drag if you want to get into detailed sequencing and p-lock type stuff. Comes loaded with content that will age like those Emu MoPhatt units.
Hate to say it, but you’re GASing hard. Maybe better to wait till that DT arrives and explore what you can do with ST and DT before buying two other synths. Chances are high you’ll be bogged down in learning and problem solving for a long time instead of making music.
You’ve stated yourself that you don’t need more, so why get two additional synths? Because you have more MIDI tracks on DT? That’s an endless rabbit hole of gear acquisition if you follow that logic.
Maybe better to add a MIDI controller to your ST down the line for performance, but only if you’ve played more with ST and DT and feel like your ST (or DT) could be a bit more hands on.
Ahahah Emu , you talking sweet to my ears lol
Indeed sampled based soundesign is superior on the digitalkt … my concern is more like if i want to go sometime (i do lofi hip hop also not only ambient and electro which i love doing on synatkt , you can check mly syntakts sound forum post to hear my expermeints ) im kinda scare that it will be less direct experience and will end up in browsing which was the very reason i bout the syntakt over a digitakt back then …
One thing i was thinking is to force me to use stock sounds for a while mainly (not only) to avoid creating what i’m esaping with daw work lol
I also thinking of using it like a daw kinda , may i ask you aquestio,n about something 
Basically i want to be able to record some from syntakt to a track on digitakt , use that sample on let’s say step 1 (noise sweep / crash) , then record something else on same track and place it on step 8 …
How to do that ? sampling and then saving sample then importing it to sound pool ?. or is there a quiker way (can we save and put in sound pool at same time or some ?)
Thks
Record sample 1. Assign to track. Add trigs and p-lock sample 1.
Record sample 2. Assign to same track. Add new trigs.
super !!
BrokenGadget , how samples are saved ? can we choose folder and tags them (better to use app or do able on units)
So if i understand well , sampling is an individual process not linked to tracks we on or some … there’s a sampling page and then we choose what to do with it ?
We can’t choose a step and decide to sample for its containt ?
Thks again for your lights !
Also , whenyou say paramter lock the sample , does 't it need to be saved and put on the sound pool ?
You sample, edit and save. The saved samples go to a ‘catch all’ directory and you can move them around afterwards. Best see manual or a YouTube video for more details.
On a track you can have a different sample assigned to each step. You can even modulate the sample assignment with an lfo.
You are always working in a project on the DT. You load samples into the project so you can sequence them. When you assign a sample to a track it will take the next free sample slot in the project. With some pre- planning you could have some trigs on a track assigned to the first empty sample slot. Then if you sampled and assigned that sample to the track it would occupy the sample slot and the trigs would play that sample.
The key concept is each trig has a sample slot associated with it.
It’s pretty versatile.
Thks a lot for the details , i watched a loooot of videos , non really goes deep in sample managament , just sample mangling ect …
If you move samples around , how the project loads them ? (is it dynamic adressing ?)
Afaik samples are adressed using checksums. Could be wrong.
Checksums ? meaning ?
@Zo I’ve checked for you. If you have a sample loaded to a project and then move it to a different directory, it will remain in the project.
Probably want to take this to a different thread if you want to discuss DT sample management.
Thks a lot guyz for those pricless infos …
If i sample something and use slices on a project , somebody has to save the OG sample before closing device ?
Thks a lot guyz for those pricless infos …
If i sample something and use slices on a project , somebody has to save the OG sample before closing device ?
If samples are not specifically moved somewhere , what are they default location (a folder created with project ? pattern ? ect) ?
I haven’t bought anything else yet. I have sold my MC101. 
The DT is still in the post.
I own four other subtractive synths at the moment and that Roland P6 sampler. That’s it.
The Roland sampler’s next on the hit list and probably a couple of the subtractive synths, too. I should end up with more money than I started with. 
The intro to chapter 9 of the manual says:
“A sample that is used in a Sound or a pattern can be renamed or moved and still work as intended. This is due to a hash function that adds a file specific value to every file, and this value is independent of the file name or the file’s location in the data structure. However, if you delete a sample, it will not be included in any Sounds or patterns anymore.”
But yeah, that’s a different thread. Not this one.
I know for sure that my Roland S1 makes sounds that the Syntakt can’t. The original purpose of this thread was to find things that ADD to a Syntakt.
As I wrote in the “feature request thread”, the Syntakt really, really needs the Digitone’s “WAVETONE” machine, IMHO (a machine with two independent oscillators, at least one of them with PWM).
(Insert picture of Nick Batt)
I haven’t been very interested in pairing things up due to my family situation with kids in need of attention and supervision, but as that phase of life is slowly transitioning into pre-teen parenting, I find myself more able to spend time in the studio, guilt free, in my solitude. This makes it easier for me to keep a setup hooked together so it’s made me want to explore pairings more again.
In my mind, there are two major things the Syntakt is missing: sampling and polyphonic synth sounds. So although I didn’t like the SP-404, it still seems like a great pairing on paper. Has the Move got proper midi support now? If so, that’s a great companion that does both too.
Otherwise there’s obviously the Digitakt 2 (samples only) and Digitone 2 (polyphonic synthesis only), but there you have to choose which major thing is most important.
So, what’s the most important gap here between samples and polyphonic synthesis? If the main attraction is synthesis, there’s a myriad of other small and inexpensive options too like Roland S-1 which everyone seems to love. I’m sure it would pair excellently with the Syntakt. If it’s samples, then honestly I’d pick the Digitakt 2 without hesitation.
Over the mpc live 2 ? hehe
As i stated i do have an iriuml core for poly duties (it was a hard choice between nthis and digitone 2 , didgintone 2 is less cpaable m=but more fun on paper to creat things , but man ,the core is a beast .
As for samples , yep what i love about the digitalt is it’s tight integration in daw so i can sample within daw which i lie to do and tweak … the only thing im bothered with is browsing !!!
I think so. To me, the MPC feels like it’s own thing, not something I’d use as a sample companion for the Syntakt. It’s a complete production environment, not just a sampler. It’s a really really great sampler though.
The Digitakt feels more like it’s stepping into the dawless world of creative exploration to me, same mindset as I’m having when making music on the Syntakt.