Tiny synth to go with OT?

sezare56 · 2022-08-02T16:17:55.551Z

license:

Funny thing is, this works a lot better with the Model:Samples than the OT.

Because of pitch up range?

Workaround : use chromatic slices of single cycles waveforms. You can also do wavetables.

license · 2022-08-02T16:34:30.732Z

Yes, that and the fact that slices/lengths are in 120ths instead of 128ths or 64ths, so that you can derive overtones from them. For example, you can get 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th harmonics by using lengths of 40, 30, 24, and 20, respectively. This can be useful for creating chords, harmonies, and other just intonation tricks similar to the Monomachine’s ensemble machines, and can be fun with LFO modulation.

license · 2022-08-02T16:43:22.704Z

Also I don’t mean to bogart this thread but it’s good to see the 0-Coast getting more love. Here’s an example of what you can do with just 0-Coast and OT (nothing else used here - EDIT: jk, I forgot I used the Thyme to make the hats sound more like hats):

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BassesAndPads · 2022-08-02T17:37:08.923Z

It’s just such a good pairing. Pretty known video with Digitakt in it, but this guy just grabs one shots and snippets from loops he makes on the 0-coast and it sounds awesome. The OT just takes it to another level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DqWYJ0l9xA&list=PLEaFHZbRTP74EhvtOjwfwswPUxRsjiDEP&index=6

lopodyr · 2022-08-02T18:27:27.997Z

bibenu:

Just realised there is of course a lot of overlap with this thread

Sure, there is! The reason I wanted to start a new conversation was to focus on just synths (the other thread has some grooveboxes and other gear) and focus on beloved sound machines, regardless of their looks (the other thread is a lot about tiny and/or beautiful machines, not all of them being anyone’s recommendation).

Ultimately, you are right, it is still similar, my apologies

SkinnyWhiteBoy:

You could just download adventurekids single cycle waveforms, and use the Octatrack as a synth.

@SkinnyWhiteBoy I do this! And I love it! I just find that it is great for plucks and basslines, but gets old fast for chords. Copying and pasting pages on 4 tracks everytime you tweak something is suboptimal.

@Supercolor_T-120 thanks for the detailed recommendations! They look and sound great (love the design on the Phenol), but I guess they are all too big for me. I was really looking for a synth that fits in a backpack, or better yet, a pocket! An emergency synth if you will, that can still provide polyphony and midi.

For anyone interested, I picked up a used Modal Skulpt SE which should be coming very soon. I chose it for polyphony, low price, nice sound (good VA, cannot hurt in my book) and relatively small footprint… though I would have preferred it without the keyboard and the battery compartment to make it even smaller haha.

Thanks everyone for the recommendations and the cool tips for using the OT with synths. You rock again, Elektronauts.

Supercolor_T-120 · 2022-08-02T19:19:26.621Z

Just to be clear, are you talking about using length to generate overtones from a single cycle waveform (which would also truncate the actual waveform itself, so the timbre would be different for every overtone) or a longer sample with the correct number of cycles that changing the length to values corresponding to overtones would make it loop at a zero crossing so the timbre didn’t change?

Both sound really useful, I’m just curious which approach you’re taking, or if there’s another I haven’t thought of. Either way, it’ssomething I never thought of trying.

Thinking about it now, I’ve also never used retrigger on a single cycle waveform as a sort of crude oscillator sync (the retrigger would be the period of the second oscillator that the single cycle waveform would be kind of syncing to), but I don’t want to derail the thread any more.

license · 2022-08-02T19:43:24.980Z

That’s part of the beauty of it - both approaches should work

Supercolor_T-120 · 2022-08-02T20:11:20.331Z

Yes, I was just curious which you used.

bibenu · 2022-08-02T21:51:58.809Z

lopodyr:

my apologies

No criticism intended, there are unique items in both threads I think.

Noi · 2022-08-04T06:07:19.254Z

For travelling, I would suggest an Ipad with Moog Model D and Animoog apps. They are cheap (you can grab and old Ipad for this duty), flexible, and have amazing sound. There are also many other great synth apps to play with, although Moog apps are my favourite.

topo_explo · 2022-08-04T13:32:05.691Z

lopodyr:

the Blofeld looks like a great option, especially because of its features for the price. However, I would indeed like something smaller, as I’m mostly looking for something for when I’m not using my main synth, when travelling

The Blofeld module is actually relatively small. You wouldn’t be able to fit it in you pocket of course, but it’s has a narrow slender metal body that fits comfortably in a small backpack. It’s also very deep (it’s a sound-designers dream) and because it’s multi timbral, it pairs perfectly with the Octatrack.

lopodyr · 2022-08-04T14:01:47.234Z

Edit for simplification: it was more expensive than what I wanted to spend on a secondary synth. If I end up loving this workflow though, I hope to put my hands on one in the future. It seems great!

levitatingcoffin666 · 2022-08-04T14:08:11.847Z

that new Roland j6 mini synth looks pretty cool

OverneathTheSkybridge · 2022-08-04T17:55:58.912Z

I think the Microfreak would be a good portable companion to the OT. Lots of oscillator and modulation options, presets amd cool sequencing options.

reeloy · 2022-08-04T18:04:45.428Z

…first thing that comes to mind, checking all ur boxes…

korgs nu tek ns1…
or the micromonsta…
both with a tiny diy factor…but with great nerd comunities in their back that exchange lot’s of how to and preset creations…

Supercolor_T-120 · 2022-08-04T20:23:07.608Z

Micromonsta still seems like the best choice to me.

mrcrappypantson · 2022-08-04T20:39:46.014Z

JD-08
D-05
0coast
Strega
Virus Snow
Digitone

russv · 2022-08-07T22:43:45.404Z

I just got a PreenFM2, couple days in, it is an amazing OT companion

Daevlor · 2023-11-11T21:34:22.648Z

Reviving an old thread, but do you MIDI the Model D app to OT, or just play using the touchscreen? I’m a sample-based producer, and I’m looking for a synth to pair with my OT. I just remembered I have the Model D app, so I’m curious how I could link this to the OT.

EDIT: I’m thinking about an OP-1 as a companion, but I’m not good at playing keys, so I’m thinking of a synth with a true keyboard I can learn and grow with.

Noi · 2023-11-11T22:12:44.051Z

I use it mostly sending notes via midi from the OT and tweaking parameters on iPad’s screen. It is also nice to map Model D parameters on OT encoders (filter, resonance, etc). iPad’s Model D is a great synth voice and offers a lot of possibilities for connecting with the OT.