Doing a live DJ set with the OT. I don’t want to warp or timestretch my songs to fit the tempo of the OT, but I DO want to be able to use the rate knob for cool slowdown FX at certain points in the songs. Is there a way to do this?
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Yes if you use a Flex playing the recording of the audio you want to timestretch.
Something like transition trick + rate timestretch.
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Can you elaborate?
What exactly are you looking to achieve?
With timestretch off both rate and pitch work in an equivalent manner as speeding up or slowing down a record, rate only goes down and also reverse, pitch will speed up and slow down…
Looking for another outcome?
I want to be able to use the rate knob to time stretch, but I don’t want the songs to time stretch to tempo. Basically, I have a 28 song set list of various tempos. I want to be able to play songs at their original tempos no matter the tempo of the OT. It seems that to do that, time stretch needs to be off for the songs, but then the rate knob doesn’t work.
OK, back to @sezare56 then… 
I think he’s talking about having your regular tracks without timestretch on and then having a track that’s recording and playing back the audio and that track does have timestretch on… I’ll let him explain more with whatever details he had in mind, I’ve summoned him in this post… 
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How about leaving time stretch off, knowing your bpm for songs, setting bpm for a song manually before your effect, then switching manual timestretch on in the playback menu. Then drop tempo for your effect? Songs longwinded though…
Yes. Recordings with timestretch on are played at the same tempo (the tempo set when recording).
So I pretty much NEVER use my OT for recording. Assuming I’m using track 8 as my master, how would you go about setting this up? I currently have CUE on, as well, and playing through the headphones only so I can at least hear what I’m playing next.
When you say ‘song’ that’s a bit ambiguous - I’m going to guess you mean several audio tracks that have been already trigged to play loops. If it’s more than one track the rate knob isn’t going to work because it only affects current track - you will need the crossfader
turn off timestretch for all tracks you want to slow.
put a scene on the right with rate at full for every track you want to affect
a scene on the left with rate at mid point (aka zero) or above - again working on every track that you want to slow down.
They’ll all slow down together when you move the crossfader off the right position. You can mute the left scene whenever you want to protect agains accidental slowing (knocking the crossfader of off full right)
Let me explain better.
Tracks 1-4 are the LEFT turntable, Tracks 5-7 are the RIGHT turntable. 8 is the master. Each track has ONE stereo wav file of a full song ripped from my CD collection). All I need is to be able to time stretch an individual song without it also having to be timestretched to the BPM of the OT itself. My crossfader is working as an actual crossfader for fading songs into each other.
For example. If I have a track at 120bpm, I want to be able to have the OT at ANY other BPM and the song doesn’t timestretch. Then I want to be able to, for FX purposes, occasionally tweak the RATE knob to slow down the song. Since I have to turn timestretch off in the SAMPLE settings so it doesn’t sync to the OT BPM, the rate knob doesn’t work.
You can record SRC3 = MAIN with T7, play the recording with a FLEX on T7.
Can’t elaborate, I’m making a wooden floor!
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Alright. I’ll experiment. May just have to accept that I can’t have unsynced songs and RATE slowdown at the same time.
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Same recording principle as Transition Trick. Search for it…
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Gotcha. Ok. I’ve read up on that before.
Okay sounds simpler now - you aren’t ending to slow down several samples together or the whole mix.
Check your setting for rate knob. Maybe you have the rate knob set to timestretch. Set it to pitch and see what you think
Yeah. I’m not trying to alter pitch, though. Just the time. I want those cool stretched glitch effects during certain parts of songs. It’s mostly just for fun. The set won’t suffer without it, I was just curious as to the possibility of timestretching via rate without syncing a file to bpm.
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right!
I’m not with my OT right now but feel like I’ve wanted this lots of times in the past and never got it working. I
t’s like the Rate knob when set to Timestretch doesn’t act as expected - like, I think it does nothing if timestretching is off for that track, whereas what you’d expect (and want) is independent timestretching…
Will have another look.
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Yes! I want the RATE knob timestretching to be independent of the sample settings time stretching so that I can use the RATE knob without the sample stretching to fit the tempo of the OT.
It does reverse without pitch / timestretch, which can be interesting.
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