Thru Start Silent piercing noise

nedavine · 2013-11-08T13:03:34.000Z

""sicijk"":

Hello!
this issue emerged by making some tests regarding another issue about track bleeding…

So: if you set globally Silence Tracks -or- set a track to Start Silent when the silented track is a Thru what happens is that the sound coming from the Thru gets truncated…more correctly: substituted by a high frequency noise.

I would ask you guys if you can replicate the problem, but with the promise that you lower your listening system’s level!!

So, create two Patterns having two different Parts with only one active track (T1):

•PART-1 has T1 loaded with Thru

•PART-2 has T1 loaded with Static

•Put a trig on Pattern-A (Part-1) on first step to let the sound from Input to flow.

•No trig at all on Pattern-B (Part-2)

•Set Start Silent for T1 on Pattern-B

•Then play Pattern-A

•Switch to Pattern-B…what happens?

I dont get the high screech I get the same bleed effect I was getting before.

sicijk · 2013-11-08T16:16:13.000Z

""Dataline"":

Could you please report this to Elektron Support?

going to do this in a hour!
ThX CeNk =)

nedavine · 2013-11-10T00:54:27.000Z

No reply on my support ticket as of yet.

sicijk · 2013-11-10T08:32:06.000Z

Hey Nedavine, but that bleeding keeps the same volume of the Thru?

nedavine · 2013-11-10T09:07:53.000Z

""sicijk"":

Hey Nedavine, but that bleeding keeps the same volume of the Thru?

No its quieter. But I will double check again tonight with a different pattern.

sicijk · 2013-11-11T06:37:11.000Z

""nedavine"":

[quote=“sicijk”]Hey Nedavine, but that bleeding keeps the same volume of the Thru?

No its quieter. But I will double check again tonight with a different pattern. [/quote]
Still the same?
Heaps curious!

nedavine · 2013-11-11T07:19:55.000Z

""sicijk"":

[quote=“nedavine”][quote=“sicijk”]Hey Nedavine, but that bleeding keeps the same volume of the Thru?

No its quieter. But I will double check again tonight with a different pattern. [/quote]
Still the same?
Heaps curious! [/quote]
I tried again today but It was the correct volume so maybe I was mistaken.
However I tried your problem again and I also got the high pitched beep but only when the track was set to start silent. It must be a glitch. Horrible noise.

sicijk · 2013-11-11T07:25:18.000Z

Indeed!

It happens only with Thru and Start Silent. (waiting for reply from SupportTicket)

The fact you got your bleeding (BUT with same level) I believe is something absolutely normal since you dont have trigs on the “landing” track.

And, i believe also, you have HOLD/REL @ inf…so the sound will keep flowing from the Thru, even if the actual part loaded has a Static where the Thru was… hope it makes sense (im always afraid my English is soooo bad)

nedavine · 2013-11-11T07:35:12.000Z

""sicijk"":

Indeed!

It happens only with Thru and Start Silent. (waiting for reply from SupportTicket)

The fact you got your bleeding (BUT with same level) I believe is something absolutely normal since you dont have trigs on the “landing” track.

And, i believe also, you have HOLD/REL @ inf…so the sound will keep flowing from the Thru, even if the actual part loaded has a Static where the Thru was… hope it makes sense (im always afraid my English is soooo bad)

Your English is fine
Yeah its a sucky bug. Although you say its normal I hope there is an option to stop it (or they fix the starts silent). Maybe they are too busy making new machines hehe

sicijk · 2013-11-11T10:59:08.000Z

so…in the meanwhile i would timidly suggest to put a 0-volume trig on that incriminated first step… this will kill any noise. But this time i wouldn’t use Start Silent otherwise possible effects tail from the previous will be cutted

sicijk · 2013-11-11T17:12:00.000Z

Here the reply from HQ:

Hi there!

Yes, I can replicate the fault here also… Though you need to send something through the inputs to replicate this.

We will do our best to fix this. In the meantime, I recommend you to use a TRIG at the beginning of the sequence with a VOL - 64 plock instead of start silent.

My first bug discovering…WoW!

rhizome · 2013-11-11T17:43:19.000Z

sounds exactly the same as the PIPO looping glitch noise in your example. can’t remember if I ever reported that one actually…

sicijk · 2013-11-11T23:55:18.000Z

""rhizome"":

sounds exactly the same as the PIPO looping glitch noise in your example. can’t remember if I ever reported that one actually…

Im quite sure i’ve read about PIPO…but really cant remember where…can you point me there? thx!
So this has happened already?

rhizome · 2013-11-13T15:08:30.000Z

it’s one of the looping modes for flex/static (PIngPOng, i.e., loops sample forwards and backwards). occasionally it’ll get stuck and produce the same high pitch tone as your example.

sicijk · 2013-11-13T16:29:37.000Z

""rhizome"":

it’s one of the looping modes for flex/static (PIngPOng, i.e., loops sample forwards and backwards). occasionally it’ll get stuck and produce the same high pitch tone as your example.

Oh yess PIngPOng !!
never encountered it (I have not really used the PIPO)…but do you know how can i replicate the PIPO stucking?
Thx
-gg-

rhizome · 2013-11-13T16:44:58.000Z

it happens pretty frequently. just set looping to PIPO and trig your sample. should hear it within a minute or so.

nedavine · 2013-11-14T09:20:25.000Z

""rhizome"":

it happens pretty frequently. just set looping to PIPO and trig your sample. should hear it within a minute or so.

I didn’t realise there was a ping pong mode.
Still no reply on my support ticket. First time I’ve dealt with elektron support, pretty slow aye. Dave smith sent me 4 emails in that interim and then keeps sending me check up emails to check I am doing ok lol. I think the support lady likes me

acidhouseforall · 2014-07-22T21:52:47.000Z

New OT user here. Having the same exact issue. Filled a ticket as well. Did you get any answer ?

sicijk · 2014-07-23T05:14:41.000Z

Still waiting for a fix. It is a known bug and HQ will say they are aware of it.

Hoping for this and others to be fixed!

acidhouseforall · 2014-07-24T07:28:28.000Z

Aware since at least november… is this normal at Elektron to take several months to fix minor issues ?