There's something about this brand that makes me worried

for my wallet.
In the process of upgrading my studio which started little over a month ago I ended purchasing the Rytm today and completing my dark trinity setup.
Still over two years of warranty on it for a flat grand.
Anybody got GAS problems when it comes to :3lektron: ?? :ecstatic:

I never play live so technically I’m not a primary target of those machines but the workflow is so fluid and very often randomized by live input that is very hard for me not play on the A4 and OT while putting my other stuff aside.
I just hope the Rytm can sync via USB without issues and I have a feeling my setup will be complete for a long time.
Still, NL4 and Virus give me gas but I don’t have space for another module nor keys so my $ are safe for now.
Thank you Elektrondudes and dudettes for making such fun machines.

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I know right? I started with a rytm some years ago and within a month I too will have a trinity. I think the sequencers and the “convenience” features like trig offsetting, copying/pasting, copy/pasting settings, seq pages etc are ace and really addicting in use. I also like the fact that the UI paradigms and operation is very similar between the trinity boxes.

Playing elektrons live is also really fun, there’s so much you can do if you prep things proper.

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It took me a long time to succumb to the joys of Elektron. I wanted an Octatrack but, just for me–and I know that not everyone feels this way and that I’m in a small minority, I spent time with one every few years and the buttons just didn’t grab me. So it was always sort of on my list, but never on the top of the gearlust gear list. I preordered a Digitakt in mid-February because it seemed so perfect for me, and it seemed like it would have buttons that were more my style. As it turns out, the Digitakt has buttons a whole lot like my favorite ever keyboard for typing. It even appears they’re actually identical, the same manufacturer for my Das Keyboard and the Elektron Digitakt, which explains a lot, but I didn’t know that right away…I just knew that the Digitakt’s buttons were incredible for me.

So I spent as much time as I could with the Digitakt, and got more and more excited as the few early bugs were squashed, and I started to think, “Wow, these are the best buttons ever. I’d buy an Octatrack in a second, even though I’m pretty broke, if the OT had these beautiful buttons.”

Then, woah, Mk IIs with the new buttons for everything except the Heat. So I hear everyone saying that it’s just a cosmetic upgrade and a slightly higher price, but the only reason I hadn’t made an Octatrack the center of my rig, and life, was suddenly solved. I really, really wanted to keep the Digitakt, but I had the opportunity to return it and pre-order the Octatrack II, so I did. And now I’m tearing down and rebuilding my whole apartment so that the OT MkII can be the centerpiece of my home studio and workflow. I wish I could accept the old buttons because I’d save money, but I can’t, not after going gaga over them for the Digitakt.

So now, all of my gearlust points toward a Rytm MkII. I might get a McMillen K-Mix today, and a patchbay and a line mixer are high on my list, to better integrate older hardware synths, and since Access was mentioned in this thread, a lot could change quickly (inside my head) if a new desktop Virus module came out–but right now, even if I get other things first to fully integrate my studio around the Octatrack–the Rytm is making a credit card want to jump out of my wallet.

One reason I’m waiting on ordering a Rytm is that I’m pulling the money together and I want to pay off the OT MkII first, but the other is that I can’t even begin to imagine what Elektron will do next. The company is uniquely positioned to do some cool new stuff. I keep imagining I’ll buy the K-Mix and then Elektron will finally roll out a really gorgeous performance mixer, but I think I need to make that decision based on what’s available now and not the future. With the MkIIs, Elektron jumped from being a company that makes really cool hardware synthesis/sampler/sequencer boxes, to the company making stuff I really, really want to buy.

[And thanks for this thread! I almost skipped it because of what it looked like it would be about, but I’m worried for my wallet too, because even my getting ready to finally have an OT has already improved my productivity!]

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The new elektron buttons are the same as used in a das keyboards? Fascinating

btw, do test the K-Mix before getting one. I was really keen on getting one when they were announced, but got to test it first and was immediately disappointed with the sonic performance (low headroom) and handling of the unit (touch strips as faders are dangerous!).

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To be honest I’m not sure Access will release anything in the near future and even when they do that thing will cost arm and leg.
It’s just hard to improve on the virus the way I see it. Sure you can add a bazillion wavetables, better FM and whatever comes to your mind but at some point it’s just more of the same.
I think they will (IF ever) release something different. I read somewhere that some of the the chips in the virus are set to be out of manufacturing by 2020-2025 or something like that so in the end they won’t be even able to improve it in its current form.
Will they port the whole thing to a different architecture or they are already working on something else is my question.
I really want the Ti though. The layout and the keybed are to die for without having to mention the sound possibilities.
My backup blofeld keys are out for sale. Only room for one key and while I still gas for the NL4 i think the Ti will take the spot.

As for the Rytm MKII I actually like it a lot. But I know I will never use its sampling feature as I process all my samples on PC. Fast, simple and clean. Idea of larger pads is nice as well but not a deal breaker. For $1000 I got a machine with over 2 years of Elektron warranty and looks like in great condition. It will do :slight_smile:

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Thank you for the pointers. I have most of McMillen’s gear, but am still not sure I’ll bond with the K-Mix. I know that on some level I’m trying to solve two separate problems, wanting a mixer and wanting a MIDI control surface with something like moving faders. I think the K-Mix is the only device under $1000 that can do both, but I also think there are reasons no one else is going in that direction…

Somewhere here on Elektronauts, someone posted a link to a Digitakt dissection, probably on Reddit, that led others to come to the conclusion that the Digitakt buttons were the same as mechnical/gamer keyboards. I wouldn’t be willing (or able) to open either one, but it did seem that the mechanical keyboard and the Digitakt buttons did have the same parts, according to other people more qualified to make that decision. [I tried some search words to try to find the old posting, but I couldn’t find it.]

From what I’ve heard (which might be wrong), the Kemper products are so successful that Access is still alive and well, but not likely to try a Total Integration 3 any time soon. I agree, completely, that there’s no easy way to upgrade what they have. A thousand oscillators and hundreds of effects will, like you said, just be more of the same.

And, yeah, it sounds like you did quite well with your Rytm! I bet I’ll get one eventually.

Elektron really does make me worried for my wallet too.

You just have to be content with what you got and use it to its maximum potential. Forget the rest.

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That is very true but I’m “in this” since 1996 and at this point, my “at least” close to complete as possible setup is within reach.
Problem is those two synths have a very specific character and technically any of them would do. I leaning towards Virus more mostly because of the keybed.

I am hosting an Elektron Addicts Anonymous meeting later this week. Yall should attend.

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very happy with the Digitakt. Elektron gear is way too expensive (out of reach) to be an actual problem for me.

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Well, just to update I got a super nice deal for a very clean looking Ti desktop. I really wanted the keys but for under $800 I couldn’t pass it.
My “must have” setup is completed :smiley:

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