Strange behavior with the rotary encoder. When progressing from one menu choice to another going in the same direction, each click changes to the next menu. However, when reversing direction with the encoder, the first click will not register. And if more than a fraction of a second interval occurs between that first click and the next click(s), after the change of direction, then none of the clicks will register. While not a deal breaker, this is weird behavior.
Is this a hardware or a software issue? I like the clicks of the encoder, and I can easily see myself relying on counting the number of clicks between one menu and another…but the above behavior complicates that scheme.
Are you on the latest firmware? There’s an update that addresses some encoder issues and enhances some other encoder interactions (e.g. non-linear behavior for some large range values).
I hope my feedback is appropriate. I think this is a really neat device.
Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.
Can a chromatic scale be included in the list of scales.
I have an idea on how that can be included. I don’t have an ETA on this yet.
Then there is the question of changing default values. It would be cool if new patterns could inherit parameter values from other patterns. (Maybe there is a setting, but I’m still overwhelmed with the docs.) It is reasonable to assume that any subsequent pattern will share attributes with the previous pattern. And rather than having to continually re-enter values, some form of cloning or inheritance would (if it doesn’t already exist) be nice.
You are highly encouraged to “do more with less”, and as such you are highly encouraged to use fewer patterns where possible and make as much use of unique pattern modifiers/behaviors as possible. Settings inheritance would therefore be counter-productive/“annoying” if that were implemented (even more so with multi-instrument mode thrown into the mix).
Which settings do you find you need to replicate often if I may ask?
Thanks for the quick reply. I have a bluetooth adapter on order for my computer, so I have not yet had the chance to update the firmware.
And thanks a million for even considering my feedback about some sort of chromatic mode.
It will take some time for me to embrace your philosophy of “doing more with less.” Practically all the music I make are accompaniments to beginning strings and band songs for 4th and 5th graders. I am familiar with the ways EDM artists do more with less by, for example, muting and unmuting tracks. That particular technique is not particularly compatible with the music I’m writing. I’m sure there are many other ways to do more with less, however. I will try to take your motto to heart.
One example of how inheritance might work: If a melody spans multiple patterns, that implies some consistency between the patterns. But, I can also see your point how, in other cases, this behavior could be annoying or unwanted.
You are describing using the context menu here presumably?
First, make sure you are on the sequencer page (e.g. get your context right - other menus with different options are available on some other pages).
Now open the context menu (Hold write, press knob).
Still holding write, keep short-pressing the knob until you have found the “CoPy Pttn” option.
Still holding write, long-press the knob. Until the device reports “CoPy OK”.
Note that this option selection/actioning mechanism is universal for all context menus. It’s not some weird button combo or sequence you need to memorize. It’s all the same stuff.
Doing the above, you have now copied whatever was on the sequencer page into the copy buffer.
Now select your target pattern. Repeat opening the context menu, but this time action the “PStE Pttn” option. The device should now report “PSte OK”.
Whatever was in the copy buffer is now pasted into the pattern (and is now visible on the sequencer page).
If you connected to Wooveconnect, it will automatically compare the latest version against the version on your Woovebox. If there is a newer version available, it will offer to download it and upload it to your Woovebox. E.g. if nothing happens, you are on the latest version.
If you really need to know your current build number, you can find a message in the Console (CMD/CTRL+SHIFT+I on many browsers).
It says something like; “Device firmware is up-to-date, running latest build 2419”.
Editing post, as I haven’t mastered the track selection mode and skipped through to patterns. Hold value knob and long press 1-16 for selection. Thx Professor Woove!
There is not really a concept of “pattern mode” or “track mode” or hierarchies in the UI. If you haven’t done so, please consider going through the “very basics” page. It won’t take long at all, and will save you lots of time and (possibly) frustration.
Having my own problems copying and pasting patterns.
Instead of the entire pattern being pasted, only the currently selected track is being copied. What am I doing wrong? I have been spending a lot of time reading the docs, including the “getting started” sections, and cannot figure out why this is happening. Since the prompt in the Context Menu says “COPY PTTN”, obviously this implies the ENTIRE pattern should be copied, right?
Please help me. For me, holding Value and long pressing 1-16 only toggles SOLO ON or SOLO OFF. I have searched the docs and don’t know what is meant by “track selection mode”, but I’m guessing it has something to do with my current problem.
Ok, there is clearly something missing or not clear in the documentation.
It seems people are unclear about what a track is, and what a pattern is? Is that a fair assessment?
From the “very basics” docs;
A track can be thought of as a member of a band or orchestra. This “member” will be in charge of one of 16 instruments/synthesizers (for example a bass or synthesizer lead), or in charge of a sample kit (for example a drum kit, or a number of pre-defined vocal chant samples, etc.)
If a Track is the member of a band or orchestra, then a pattern is a page of sheet music that each member is reading. Each track can play up to 16 unique patterns, and patterns may be chained if needed.
Ergo when you’re copying (“CoPy”) a pattern (“Pttn”), you are copying one of the 16 possible unique pieces of sheet music for that member of the orchestra. You can then paste (“PStE”) this piece of sheet music into another pattern for that member (“track”) of the orchestra.
With that distinction in mind, would you be able to tell me what you are trying to do, what your expected outcome is, and what is happening instead?
I am having trouble breaking free of the concept of tracks and patterns that is evident on the Elektron Digitone. On that device, a pattern encompasses all four tracks. When a “copy pattern” function is called, all the tracks in that pattern are copied. I guess I’ve been using the Digitone for so long, and for so extensively, I just assumed that would be the WB’s behavior for “COPY PTTN”. Sorry, and thanks for clarifying that!
Use case is this… For my smooth brain, there really isn’t a need to copy/paste between tracks, unless you are layering instruments over one another (that’s cool too!).
I’d rather have the device take my track 1-16, and allow me to replicate it multiple times (pattern 1 becomes 1-8 for example), so I can incorporate mutes, step changes, or just mangle those copy patterns while leaving my original track 1-16 pattern intact.
I clone out my patterns on the OP-Z 24/7 for this same purpose. Spawn off a lead track with each copy getting different modulation.
Gotcha. The Woovebox indeed works differently (for reasons that will become clear once you delve into Song mode or Live mode’s scenes). Patterns belong to tracks on the Woovebox, rather than the other way around. Multi-instrument mode blurs those lines again, but I don;t want to confuse you any more right now.
If you’ve booted to disable autosave, how do you then manually save? All I can find in the docs is “simply press play,” but that doesn’t save in this boot mode.
