The fear of hitting [FUNC]+[YES]

Elektron Gear
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I’m currently having this issue with DNII, but I think the same applies to most Elektron instruments.

I find myself often shitting in my pants when, after a good old CTRL-ALL action, I want to reload the regular pattern.
I miss the totally safe [FUNC]+ [Classic/Extended] shortcut of the MachineDrum.

Don’t you find it dangerous/annoying/problematic that you can easily hit [FUNC]+[YES] instead of [FUNC]+[NO], especially in a live situation ?

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you could glue a red circle or something similar to the yes button?

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Just happen me every time on DTII. Constantly I have to take care of while I performing quickly with my fingers to allow me fast change a between preset pool, unmute several tracks and the same time.

I think about it like playing the piano and not hit wrong scale notes …

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hello , that’s why after every good session i do FUNC+SETTINGS to do a project save, even several times during a session , so if temp save is done you can always reload the project

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in live situation > make face as it was intended, calm down the delays and switch to another pattern :rofl:

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Do you drive?, if so do you fear pressing the accelerator instead of the break?.
In 7+ years of ownership I have only done it once or twice and was aware of my mistake and reloaded the pattern from the project instead. Just be aware that it is possible to temp save by mistake so project save any patterns you cant bare to lose and make sure you dont save the whole project if you have been fiddling( in fact its best to stay away from whole project saves as a habit as its so easy to forget which patterns have been messed with), that way you always have a way back.

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I recognize the fear and I also hit the func+settings pretty quick when starting a new pattern or project.

You’ll probably know this , but if you haven’t lifted your finger from the track button, you can just hit “NO”.
Less of a chance to hit the wrong combo.

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Maybe you could use the more secure Perform mode?

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i don’t do so much ctr all but when i want to experiment on a pattern i’ve spent alot of time , i usually do a copy and try new things on the copy

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on rytm double [FUNC] press opens up the presets menu, happened to me a lot that I suddenly switched sound on a track and got really scared thinking I broke the rytm…
I always try moving everything into scenes/perf macros so I wouldn’t need to deal with button pressing like settings/func etc., I wish every elektron had the option to move everything into a single performance menu so you wouldn’t need to jump everywhere hitting unwanted key combos

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I’ve been afraid of this for the first few months of owning DN/DT but not anymore. Granted, I don’t play live shows. I almost never use fct+yes to save temporarily, if I like something, I do a permanent save. So I have fct+no and permanent save engrained in my muscle memory but not fct+yes. I generally copy patterns to a new pattern before changing stuff and constantly save plus backup on my laptop from time to time, so I really rarely lose anything these days.

Things I’m more afraid of:

  • fucking up a kit on AR (and A4), way prefer the digi workflow where you just copy a pattern and jump there so everything is save
  • copying a pattern to a new one, doing fct+no before you ever saved that pattern, so it’s empty again
  • changing a pattern and copying the result to a new one, sometimes forgetting to reload the original pattern before saving project
  • jumping between patterns when playing with others and not knowing what would be the right change length not to interrupt the whole flow
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Maybe you should try copy/paste as a way of navigating instead of pattern change, it requires a bit of knowledge of you pattern locations but you get instant change(unless your patterns have very limited note triggers).

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Well, first, the car analogy is not correct, as you have switch your feet from accelerator to brake very often and quickly, while in a live situation, you (at least me) never have to hit [FUNC]+[YES].
Secondly, I save stuff extremely regularly, so losing stuff is not an issue, and as you noticed, you can always reload the pattern from its saved state. But this requires a few menus and button presses, and it takes long enough to shit your pants, and potentially ruin a musical purpose.

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I drive a car just fine and fuck something up with CTRL + YES once every session.

I wouldn’t mind having an option to switch on a “confirm” screen.

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Yeah I think that’s a good solution for some core functions that have a critical problem for many people, give them an option buried in a sub sub sub menu. If we can choose how bright the LEDs are, it seems appropriate to activate some sort of „cautions dangerous“ prompt.

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You can always practice, treat it like it’s a regular instrument. Keep on doing key combos over and over until you’re bored, and then some. Get that muscle memory working for yourself.

You won’t regret it… Unless Elektron changes the keys. :innocent:

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Like with mute mode and bank …:see_no_evil:.

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I always start a new pattern in Rytm saving the kit from I came with a new name. First mantra rule for composing on Rytm even if I’m not gonn change anything of original kit

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I mostly do that as well, but I use my digis more, so I sometimes forget. Plus sometimes you wanna use those kits.

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Clearly what annoys me with Elektron : the lack of consistence with interface and data structure.
There’s barely two machines that work the same.

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