The BITWIG Thread

…apart from video integration and an eyegrid, a modular, polygrid like enviroment for generating/patching up visual fx/math components…

aaaaall i want for x mas, from this point on, is some more midi mutating/generating in a next level pianoroll editor…
a limiter+…where u can handle smooth brickwalling on 5 separate bands…
and a bus compressor that is on eye to eye level with abletons set and forget, all in one, drumbus device…

and then, i have THE happy forever daw i can work with until the end of my days…
but hey, i’d still keep my update plan going anyways…

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@reeloy If you look right down at the bottom of the following page under “What comes next” it looks like significant arranger and piano roll changes are coming soon…

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Groove profiles still abandoned? Can the step seq be expanded to larger real estate than the bottom row?
Can swing be isolated to individual lanes?

That’s from over a month ago …so it’s even sooner now :wink: :smiley:

They were never announced as something they’re working on, so I wouldn’t call it “abandoned” (like e.g. on-line collab was)

No

No, it’s global (although several devices have setting for how much of it they use).

I like your thinking.

I went through a phase (quite a long one) of spending a lot of time using all the weird note generators and grid stuff to generate and mutate MIDI and do semi-generative stuff and although it’s fun (and I still do that sometimes) I do yearn for ways to improve the “good old fashioned” linear arranger view and the piano roll. Hopefully this new update will be something worthwhile.

I’m also using Ableton more and I think it has advantages in that area like better MIDI tools and better automation curve editing. It also has some major annoyances though like using MIDI plugins that require you to have an extra track and then route that to your instrument track. I think Bitwig is so much more flexible and even with the latest 12.2 updates to Ableton with “bounce to a new track” etc it’s still miles off the routing flexibility and the speed of the bouncing/resampling workflow in Bitwig.

Personally I like having different options and I don’t want all the DAWs to merge into a homogeneous grey blob, as well as the fact that they all draw inspiration from each other and it keeps the innovation moving.

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This part seems strange. Tried it a few times and seems more fiddly than it needs to be all squished at the bottom…

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“Strange” is an understatement. I found it completely unusable at least for how I like to make music. Most of 5.3 feels like it was rushed to pad the space between 5.2 and whenever 6.0 comes out.

It should’ve been a clip type instead - like in Reason, Studio One, Logic or Cubase.

It boggles my mind that these DAWs figured it out, but Live or Bitwig can’t…

It might be fun to fool around & experiment, though.

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Has is been officially abandoned? I still hoped to get it one day.

Collaboration features are planned for future versions of Bitwig Studio. Network support is already built into the core of the software and the Bitwig Studio project file format is designed bearing collaboration features in mind. So collaboration is part of the DNA of Bitwig Studio. We are dedicated to further develop our own collaboration technology.

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This info has been there on the website for 4-5 years. I stopped holding my breath.

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Here is a video I made for Bitwig, showing some of my recent Grid patches. A few of the devices are very Elektron inspired. Especially the 1 shot drum sampler. That device is basically a clone of the Machinedrum sampler. That patch has the same controls as MD, plus some extra features, like timestretch, and additional retrig modes. The fractals that are here and there in the video are Touchdesigner being controlled by Bitwig.

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…good call…!

…meanwhile, i really miss the point, when it comes to getting picky on such a throw away gimmick like stepwise…since, that’s what it is…just another midinote generating device in an uberclassic oldschool stepsequencer style…
nothing more than just a nice add on to an already endless array of various midi note generation options…from right out of the box, there u have it, to a whole universe of come up with ur very own…

oh and those “new” drumsynthesis modules are easy to underestimate, while in reality, they’re priceless…and u can’t go crazy enough on pitch and frequency shifter +…

still not too many users, that really wrap their heads around the polymorphing GRID eternity…

…what i really want, as soon as possible, to see bitwig become not “only” the most flexible, modular daw, it actually IS, but THE mainframe for ALL KINDS of CONTENT CREATORS…since bedroomproducing audio only was yesterday…i need THE all in one mainframe solution to finish EAR AND EYE CANDEE CONTENT for all tomorrows parties…

and sure enough, we’re getting there…

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Very nice ! Any plans on making these patches public ?

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This is exactly the point - why we’re getting a gimmick device as Stepwise in the first place???

To clutter up the browser?

To waste dev time & upgrade plan money?

To waste the time of users that have to build elaborate contraptions to get start/stop, multiple patterns and longer sequences?

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I’ve been planning on making a pack for a while, but I’ve been focused on making an album. It’s taking much longer than I hoped. As soon as I finish it, I’m going to do more Bitwig related stuff ( tutorials and device packs)

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I haven’t really gotten into stepwise yet, but at first look, I think it could be useful. But, There are a few things I would like to see added. Mainly, I would like to have an option to save different snapshots, so you could use them like patterns on Elektron boxes. Then you could switch the patterns with midi, which would allow for very good syncing with Electron boxes. If they had a system like that for the Parseq8 as well, you would also be able to have parameter locks to go with it.

To attempt to bring in a new set of paying users attracted to the simpler x0x stuff, who couldn’t give a shit about the esoteric roll-your-own “pro” stuff, so that BW can continue to exist?

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Stepwise - because it lacks basic stuff like patterns, start/stop, phase - is exactly the device that requires “esoteric roll-your-own “pro” stuff” to work :slight_smile:

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…still don’t really get it…

but ur “clutter up the browser” argument is valid…kinda…
but hey, who is working with bw on frequent bases and does not have their own personally tailored/customized blank project to start with…?
i don’t see the browser too often…

while “waste of dev time”…nah, not that much, really…i’m pretty confident, it took them no real effort at all to “develop” it…it’s way more like @garf argues…
to attract people that are still into the straight forward simplicity of xox over everything else and don’t wanna start to discover aaaaaaaaaaalllllll the depth of bw on their own…

and waste of upgrade plan money…!?..come on…variious updates, icluding always one main update on yearly bases is nowhere else to find…and each and everyone of those comes with sooooo many little addon details, easy to overlook or underestimate at first glance, which is totally bw style, modular understatement, always with the basic notation, ALL is falling into the right places, all over the place, coming together for achieving THE BIGGER PICTURE…