But it’s not really musicians that have to coexist with suno. Nobody makes any money out of recorded music now anyway.
It’s streaming platforms that should be shitting themselves.
Things like suno aren’t tools for artists, they’re a music consumption platform, like Spotify or Apple Music. People trying to conflate things like Suno and the artistic process of making music are just trying to sell it.
Obviously it’s not going away, which is why it’s important to understand it for what it is and, more importantly, what it isn’t.
Great, they’ve found a way to eliminate the drudgery in music creation: coming up with riffs/beats/melodies and experimenting with the gear you’ve bought to create interesting sounds and textures.
This allows you to skip straight to the most rewarding part: posting your work to social media where statistically no one will listen to it
i’ll also put forth that a lot of people just assume AI music is just typing words into a prompt and getting a song back. Yeah, thats what suno does, and i have plenty of fun with it. doesnt mean discount an entire methodology of AI. Try and look a little further …
I’m a fond fan on what the possibilities of AI are. Aad i am a fond fan of things similar to this that involve human interaction with AI in real time.
Summary of the AI live generation performance w/ basic comments:
Software and methodology discussion of the actual AI set up and process for the nerds interested in looking beyond just Suno AI generation:
Full DJ set (yeah, theres some downtime int here cause AI aint perfect yet):
my mum loves Suno, she’s in her 70’s and makes her own Zumba style music for her and her girlies weekly workout sesh’s. They put in silly motivational lyrics!
Whether or not he has a clue isn’t even in relation to his knowledge. People like him just blab on and will say anything that makes their dumb startup seem valuable to their shareholders.
Both true. The latter likely won’t matter, almost certainly all of the companies creating the LLMs and Diffusion generative ML emitters are relying on this:
“I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”
Yeah, because the majority of people aren’t making music, dipshit. Sit someone down to plunk keys on a piano if they have no knowledge of it, and sure, they won’t have fun. Or force someone to take piano lessons that doesn’t want to, sure they won’t enjoy themselves. Way to nail the self-evident, son!
Adding a bit more of the quote, in case this changes the conversation:
"It’s not really enjoyable to make music now […] It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”
And I really like the blossoms stuff emptyset did, so no general hate to AI. I also would say you could use those AI machines for everyone if you put them to creative use yourself and not just let them make entire stolen songs. More like sampling.
More like what synplant is doing but with song. And then pick it apart.
He is just not familiar with mastery of an art or craft. Smugly pitying him from a distance should make it apparent that they have something to learn and the CEO’s should undergo an empathetic awakening if we just keep it up. Jokes aside, I agree that they are incentivized to say the things that sound right to a small number of people that finance their business, it’s in their job description. In a rational world, it should work out just fine.
I can see where this is going, as an example picture Taylor Swift struggling to come up with a new track, types a few things in AI gets a decent result out of it, turns it into a track with real musicians etc, passes it off as her own ideas etc, multiply this by every single artist and they will all be using AI ‘to help them with writers block’ who’s going to know what track came from someone’s own ideas and what was generated for them by the computer ( and don’t suggest typing prompts is an idea) same with techno etc etc.
Hate this whole discussion (currently wearing my “AI art is theft” tshirt coincidentally!) But minor point, can we skip using Taylor for examples considering she’s one of the greatest pop songwriters and huge ambassador for human songwriting, the craft of making music and pretty much the total opposite of this knobend CEO. You may hate her and her music but she’s been writing songs since she was 12. I think her last album was boring but it’s because she put too much of her life and humanity into it which is a whole better type of boring than AI prompts.
