Talk me out of Roland MC-707 (or don't)

…once there were originals that made history…cornerstones in electronic music…
foreva…
eversince we saw next new mockups…never as good as those originals…
lost in prefab mode…made for consumers…not producers…

today, the only real original and truly great product from roland is…

boss rc 505…
THAT is an instrument again…made for free minds, fast thinkers and truu musicians…
all the rest is next new wannabees with nothing but mainstream appeal on paper…
no originals…
but hey, with a mc707 u can easily sound instantly super convincing to all other consumers…
but never original…nor individual…

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In Note mode, while the drum track is selected press and hold the Mute mode button and then the drum pad you like to mute. I guess that is what you want?

But anyway, it’s a good idea to keep some drum tracks separated. I use at least 3 of them, often 4.

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You can even do this without entering mute mode. When in note mode of the drum track, hold the channel select button and press the pad you want to mute. This is a global mute, where as using mute mode it’s a clip/pattern mute afaik.

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@gerkinear @BoutiqueCase thank you!

Definitely seems like two differently functioning types of mutes since it uses a different color depending on the shortcut used

I like the one where you hold the track select button best I think. Lets me grab that track immediately

Do you mean by global is that carrying over the mutes between clips or something?

Loopers can work some magic to be sure.

The midi clock and tempo jitter are not very good, if you try to sync to or from something else it is sloppy.

I tested it synced to OT, SBX1, and internal clock, the numbers in the chart represent the number of samples away from where each 1/4 note should fall, 50 samples is just over a millisecond (@ 44.1khz)
So the result of this if syncing with other gear is that you will hear flamming/offset and for sampling precise loops it can be a bit of a pain.

I reported it to Roland.

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:roll_eyes:

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sorry… this is nonsense

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If someone can’t create something original / individual on the 707, that’s says more about them than the device.

G

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There are new 3rd party editors out for the 707 and 101.

Not tried yet but looks promising.

G

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Unfortunately those do not look like full editors but just for the panel controls.

Something that didn’t exist previously so it’s a positive step. Roland may have something in mind later too, as they’ve done with other devices.

G

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True, but pretty easy to set all that up using a DAW, it is just CCs after all, I guess if you like the look of the skin it might be worth the asking price though.

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Not something I’m likely to use but may be of interest to other 707 users and those researching the device.

1st release so user requests may see it developed further too.

G

I own both a Digitakt and a MC-707 and in all honesty since purchasing the Digitakt, I rarely mess with the 707. The main reason why I am more drawn to the Digitakt is due to its proper sampling functionality. That is the direction that I have been drifting and for what I am exploring right now, the Digitakt is just more my style.

For me the most useful thing about the MC-707 I have found is the ZEN core synth engine. As pointed out in earlier replies, it is an all out, fully functional synthesizer that you can get very deep with. I also really dig the Roland-y synth sounds. That aspect alone was worth the price tag for me, since I sort of view it as a “two in one” device.

The other feature that I really like on the 707 that I didn’t see mentioned too much is the really nice velocity sensitive touch pads. Finger drumming for me on the 707 is really fluid and feels good. That may or may not be a big deal for you, but I think its a nice bonus.

I would say that as long as you are not expecting a sampler per se, and you enjoy the Roland workflow, and have it in your budget, go for it!

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Hold Note and press the labelled pads to change octave when in scale mode

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Yeah, I’m not a fan of the mc-707 for many reasons, but it’s quite a sound design beast.

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Some archaisms, some nasty bugs… I had the 707 very early (2019) and the initial firmware was such a mess… Maybe it’s ok now, I don’t know. It was such a bummer since I’m a fan of the TR-8S.

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It’s not buggy at all now, has a few annoyances though

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Yes. This and the scales are why I use mine as a MIDI controller. Replaced the Keystep for me. Not as broad of a range, but I’m not so great at keys anyway.

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