Sounds a bit like a Digitakt thread. And that’s not a bad thing at all.
Very cool tracks you guys made! A bit more techy then most pure DT tracks i hear. I like it.
Better results this time using a cleaner acapella with no reverb on it and pitched up using Ableton Warp re-pitch algorithm with the 400% achieved in a single pass.
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200% pitched up in Ableton and then down -12 in SP 5 secs to 10 sec audio
400% pitched up in Ableton and then down -24 in SP 5 secs to 20 sec audio
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exactly, there’s even so much more room to expand the samples on. even at 800% it would sound a like 50s radio and minidisc player at the same time, that would give a long texture, polyphonic tape-style synthesis (with a qunexus mpe controller)
hopefully 1.41 expands on that with start/end/loop settings 
timestretching the samples and using samplechains at the same time 
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The loop setting is already possible with the second channel in Twinshot. The start/length would kill Model: Samples so I don’t think we will se that feature implemented unfortunately.
if it’s long enough it would be possible to structure it like a diy multisample when triggered with key tracking on tune parameters, that would allow to scan the whole sample on a per key basis, allowing to store maybe 88 hits per sample as one instrument basically, no? 
a good point to know that it’s unfortunate to not repitch the sounds for ST because it will also lead to higher looping rates, making its own grain thing in the top end and wobbly tape things down the octaves 🫨
400% is max since we can only pitch down -24 semitones in the SP Twinshot to keep the same pitch as the original, unless your aim is to make Kanye hi-pitched vocals track from the 2000s or a house track.
Sounds interesting but how would you scan the sample without an adjustable start value?
the start value is then defined by the tune parameter, if a sample is long enough it could store one sound per note, if this note matches the key press it would be possible to have a repitched, aliasing grand piano on a per sample basis 
regardless of that I would like to try the maximum example ^^ if you’re open for that I would love to hear the completely nuts approach of maximum sample time even possible 
Is -24 using both the tune and note parameters? Thanks for posting these!
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Sorry boys, forgot about playing it lower.
800% pitched up in Ableton (3,25 secs), -24 in Twinshot and played an octave lower.
1600% pitched up in Ableton (1,62 secs), -24 in Twinshot and played two octaves lower.
800% 304kb
1600% 153kb
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I’ve been thinking of this hacky way of setting loop start but haven’t tested it yet:
- set a LP filter to 0, no attack, no decay, sustain to inf
- p-lock the trigger with LP set to 127
- use filter delay to set the start point of the sample
Also something I just thought of:
- using a square LFO in one-shot mode to the amp parameter
Both of these have the downside that you’d have to adjust the trig step or microtiming to compensate for when you want the sample to come in which imply different limitations.
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Interesting results, thanks for posting!
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more until its unregnoizable 
thx for posting
even tho it gets a bit mushy it still is an amazing quality how long is the longest duration?
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It’s better than no start point adjustment at all, definitely worth a try.
Great ideas!
The first example worked well with the addition of setting the filter env to max while keeping the filter freq at 0, also needing to adjust the trig length to sample length based on the pitch percentage and adjust the micro timing backwards and/or trig position based on the space in-between the first and wanted sample in the sample chain. Best result is to keep the same sample trig a separate channel to compensate for the off-trig placement. While this will eat up channels, it will save sampling space in the pool.
I tried with a drum kit with only 7 samples to not overcomplicate the required settings to make it happen.
The second idea with the Square LFO and Amp volume destination works as well, will also require micro timing and trig length adjustment and is probably easier to control if you want to squeeze more samples in to the sample chain by adjusting the LFO speed/bpm.
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Maybe LFO HALF mode fits better for this
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While the hacks to get around sample start are great for sample chains, the downside is managing all the parameters needed to get the timing right with the delay that comes with both solutions to sequence everything right.
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Yeah I guess, but just having the option is a lot better then not having it Gonna try this out for sure.
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