Syntakt MIDI sync issues and Double notes playing in Ableton

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I’m trying to use Syntakt’s MIDI tracks to control a drum rack inside Ableton and have run into two issues and can’t figure out how to fix it.

The first problem is the midi recorded into an Ableton clip isn’t synced to the grid.

The second issue is when pressing “play” or “record” inside Ableton I can hear each midi note double triggering, once from Ableton’s midi clip and once from syntakt’s sequencer.

Is there some setting I’m missing to fix this?

Here’s a video showing what’s going on:

Just to clarify no sound sources are playing inside Syntakt. It’s all midi tracks controlling Live’s instruments

I have overbridge loaded in the project but it’s on other tracks not the ones receiving midi from the midi machines.

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Try turning off receive notes and receive cc in the syntakt menu, or confirm that ableton is not sending out any midi data. If the syntakt sequencer is generating tones, then it is being triggered by midi data coming from somewhere. If the only thing connected to the syntakt is ableton, then that’s the source of the midi data.

I don’t think it’s loopback because it doesn’t double trigger until you play the ableton sequence.

Also, regarding your sync issue, I don’t know much about ableton but I assume you can adjust for midi latency and if all notes are an equal distance off the grid, that’s the first thing I would try.

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Thanks for the tips. Weirdly the double note issue has resolved itself and I have no idea why. The only thing I did was change the cc values sent by the encoders on each midi track. Regarding receiving notes, that was already off to begin with, and receiving CC needs to be on because I have LFO in Ableton controlling syntakt audio tracks. However in the example posted above not a single track in Syntakt was an audio track, everything was a midi machine but the midi notes were still double triggering. I’ve no idea what fixed it 🤷. Maybe because I turned off receive clock and transport?

Regarding the sync issue I’ve given up. I’ve even changed overbridge settings (max quality and set buffer to 256). The only solution is to turn on recording quantization in Ableton. Even if I delay compensate the tracks the delay compensation ceases doing anything once set higher than 90ms and the notes don’t quite hit the grid, they also drift on and off the grid and aren’t consistent.