Syncing DFAM with OT & MPC

but can you imagine with a Korg SQ1 you can have 2 rows more (and also different play directions) and different gates (you can send Gate A to adv and Gate B to trigger). so you can use the DFAM sequencer just for modulations AND it can be polyrytmic modulations source … just imagine you programm a rythm on the SQ 1 with only 7 out of 8 steps. So when the SQ1 plays trig 1 again, the DFAM seq plays trig 8 … and so on and so on :slight_smile: #whenthemagichappens

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Something like this then ?

Looks like what I need both for sync and getting audio back into the OT is TS cables and not TRS, correct ?

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Yes, I get a glimpse of what would be possible with the SQ1. And I see how it would just suck the time out of reality so easily :slight_smile:
One of the reasons I bought the DFAM is precisely to work on something more “limited” than what I’m used to. I will not bring another sequencer into this setup unless a gun was pointed at my head to force me into it, or if I was certain it would bring peace to the world. #simplethingsforsimpleminds

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Yes not TRS. It is specified in the manual that TRS will not work. For sync the Hosa cable would work perfectly. If you want to route back the audio into the OT I guess any instrument (guitar) cable will work. I use regular modular patch cables with mine.

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Finally had a chance to give this a try, routing back the audio of the DFAM to the OT was easy, just had to find a 1/4 cable and voilà. I couldn’t make the clock work with incoming audio click on the DFAM, though.

I’m surprised because I’ve seen this video where the Make Noise Math is synced to the click coming from Ableton so it further confirms my belief that this should work just fine on the DFAM as well.

Yet, I used a regular modular cable and a 1/8 to 1/4 mono adapter to record the click from the DFAM into my MPC, normalized the sample and played it back from a mono track on the MPC to the ADV/CLOCK input of the DFAM patchbay, it simply didn’t have any effect, the sequencer didn’t move on the DFAM. Plugged my earphones into that same MPC output and I could hear the click in one ear so at least I know sound was coming out.
Am I missing something here ?

Got it working so I’ll explain in case it could be of some use to other DFAM users.

  1. Send audio click to TRIGGER input on the DFAM
  2. Send TRIGGER output to RUN/STOP input on the DFAM’s patchbay.

The manual indicates the ADV/CLOCK input is expecting 0V to +5V Clock Signal, and TRIGGER takes 0 to +5V Pulse or Gate signal, maybe that explains it… I don’t know, I just know I got it working and I’m a happy camper :smiley:

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yes the dfam seq advances only when in run mode. you have to press run or send a 5v signal to run cv in.

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Hi guys.
Looking at a DFAM as the next addition to my setup.
Got Octatracks and thinking of getting a Beatstep as well as the DFAM. Would sequencing the DFAM from the Beatstep be straightforward?
And thanks to previous posters for insight into syncing; that’s my other concern.
Adam

The Dfam work well with the sq1 so it should also work well with the beatstep

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Cool. I’ll go down that route then.
Cheers

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Retrokits RK-002 + generic DIN female / Jack cable


Seb

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Hi toodee,
Your solution worked for me, so thanks! But FYI, instead of sending the TRIGGER output to RUN/STOP in your step 2, you can send it to ADV/CLOCK. This way you can avoid having the Run/Stop light flash over and over. But note before you press play on the OT, you’ll need to Advance the DFAM to step 8 and light up the RUN/STOP light.

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The easiest with just an OT is to have a short sound of CUE out and convert from 1/4 to 1/8 and then send that to ADV/Clock.

I sync two DFAMs this way and use their internal sequencers. Makes for great fun with conditional trigs and whatnot.

Here is a track with some good rythm changes:

The trigger outs from the DFAMs are going back into separate THRU tracks for extra processing.

No need for an SQ-1 or Beatstep Pro unless you want to control pitch

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with such a device, it would be possible to build sequences from the octatrack using all the power of its sequencer. including trigs condition, velocity, pitch. I want to get myself this

CV.OCD

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I’m gonna get myself the beatstep pro to hook up my DFAm to the Digitakkt, the BSP has a ton of cv’s

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Nice

Si it is just the Octatrack sending the cv signal?

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Yep! Just a loud short noise. You kind of have to tweak it but once you find the right volume/length/attack/release the sequencer will behave normally

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I use a trigger sample from E-rm. I find it easier and more reliable than a rimshot or whatever. Free download from here:

https://www.e-rm.de/downloads/

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Midimuso CV-12 ORAC Diy Kit. you don’t have to be a professional when soldering - but you don’t have to have 2 left hands. for 35, - this is the cheapest option. the possibility to cascade 2 midimuso makes it a converter that can convert all 8 midi tracks from the octatrack and thus a lot more possibilities.
DFam sync cloc and more

the gate signal (midimuso) comes into the ADV / clock (dfam)
(the octatrack steps give the sequencer speed - a kind of clock divider function - regardless of whether dfam does it fast, slowly or both - that the sync is correct.

a cv signal and 4 control change signals to the dfam with pitch gives really cool sounds.

dfam without clock / ADV in then everything can be done on the octatrack sequencer without the dfam sequencer moving.

which converter does it and if it costs a lot of money.
CV.OCD would also be a nice option, but if you want to have everything in your eurorack and like me hardly any money — this diy kit is indispensable for you

With gear that can also send out a trigger pulse, I always just sample that and play from OT/DAW.
Less fiddling around. :slight_smile:
Although it should be in the manual what kind of trigger signal and which voltage a device expects for triggering.

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