Oh- now I get the microtiming! The PC message is effectively sent ‘on grid’ while the cc message gets sent just before.
I’m not sure where @PeterHanes found the cc#32 but it’s obviously right! (It’s the same on the MPC so I guess it’s standard).
So Program Change messages are different completely from cc messages? At least I know that now
I guess the feature request for Elektron is to enable p-lock of the program change message?
I have emailed Waldorf asking for an updated list of programs and banks for their presets- the old list misses alot of the new programs and doesn’t tell you what banks they are in.
Thanks so much- I think we gave it a good shot!