Sticking with the OG Digitone

sticking with DN OG - I love the layout - very simple to program and not too much menu diving…

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I tried the DN2 as well and I like it, but it felt much more cramped to me. It sounds great and I love having more voices, but I’m so used to the OG that I really appreciate the two synth buttons and having the sends and amp on the same page.

I’m also very used to having direct track access without key combinations. I think a DN2 in the Tonverk form factor would be a much better experience overall.

I’m sticking with the OG DN too. Using an hybrid approach I don’t need the extra tracks.

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Spending $100 plus shipping on replacement buttons for a device that can be purchased for $300 sounds like like a bad investment. Feels like the equivalent of buying printer ink or some other similar racket. Luckily my buttons don’t need replacement yet

I thought you‘d say „mainly because otherwise I‘d need to change my avatar“.

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I don’t know how much they cost. Is that the real price…?

It’s the sort of thing they could sell in their online shop given that we all know they’ll be sticky in a few years.

Or they might just be worn out from 24/7 use.

Stuff like that in an online store gives confidence in products.

Upwards of that after international shipping. I bought replacements for my OG DN, and now some of them are sticky. I’ve learned to accept this fact about their machines, but it’s garbage that they haven’t fixed this issue after all these years. Or maybe they have, and the newest machines wont have this problem?

Rather embarrassing but I only just realized the full capabilities of sound locking on a single track recently, which has made DN1 an entirely new machine to me.

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No way! I love that coffee table!

Ouch!

I don’t know if it can be fixed once it starts to turn sticky but I know that rubber comes off easily with alcohol. The best time to do it is the day the rot starts.

The buttons will be shiny plastic but they won’t be sticky.

(I wonder if there’s a matte varnish you could apply…? :thinking:)

I don’t know if it can be “fixed”, it’s just what that rubber does with time.

I’ve never seen an exception.

Off topic – Sticky buttons

There’s been solutions and numerous approaches discussed somewhere else. You might check that thread first before trying to melt your buttons with alcohol.

Sticky/melting buttons; like the actual texture is sticky - #399 by Schnork

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‘Fixed’ as in, the company not using rubber coated buttons

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Thanks for the link to that thread!

The answer seems to be to rub the goo off on an old t-shirt. Any kind of solvent could also remove the black paint underneath.

Button 15 - Rubbed on t-shirt
Button 16 - Used alcohol on it

Lesson: Whenever you do ANYTHING like this, always do a small test in a hidden place first.

(nb. There might be some sort of cleaner than can help get it off, eg. window cleaner, but do a test…)

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Has nobody come up with 3D printed fancy replacement for these buttons?

(I have no clue what can and cannot be achived with 3D printing)

https://www.etsy.com/shop/winstonswork/?etsrc=sdt

https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/4409915435/replacement-keycaps-for-elektron?sr_prefetch=1&pf_from=shop_home&ref=shop_home_active_5&crt=1&sts=1&logging_key=efc00ec333693b2adb957602b50ad12be7de6955%3A4409915435

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Doesn’t look like a free, community resource to me.

Looks like a third party link to an off-site purchase.

That’s already something

If I had a Digi I think I’d be happy to buy those rather than sticking with sticky

They look… a bit strange, though (not to say ugly)

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off-topic sticky button talk

I agree with the sentiment but what I’d really like to see is for elektron to provide the print files for free, similar to TE providing the OP1 accessory kit files. It’s the one thing that they’ve done as a company for their community beyond firmware stuff that I thought was really solid.

In this instance it’s not an optional thing we’re talking about, it’s a huge issue with the actual materials elektron uses. I feel like I’m deviating from the purpose of the topic but to me, if elektron provides an option for people to replace their own buttons or encoder knobs then that is different than being offered a choice of a public sale, or a private sale in regard, to something that you should not need to purchase in the first place.

My sh-101 is from like 1983 or something and my korg kr55 is from the late 70’s. No button caps or knobs need replacement on either, so with modern manufacturing it feels a bit counterintuitive to take a step backwards in materials reliability.

I understand the nature of polymer degradation in soft touch plastics due to leeching plasticizers, but that’s a materials decision specific to design, not a necessity.

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Fully agree (my RYTM buttons are already going sticky again and it hasn’t even been a year) but I think this offshoot should be merged with the sticky buttons thread

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You know what?

100%

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:fist:

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