Nah, I won’t indulge you.
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Yer was thinking of mk1
means nothing to a mk2 or digi user.
it’s like saying - “I have software version 1, therefore, version 2 is definitely being released”
you just never know
It says so on the Elektron page.
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@Ess or @Olle can either of you confirm if the Digitone overbridge will launch after the main launch of the new overbridge, or if all current products will receive overbridge at the same time?
@avantronica I agree that there is a lot of trolling, and that this thread has gotten very negative, but there is also the aspect that the customer base is frustrated, angry, and feel mislead by the company. Thankfully, it would appear that at least the engineers and customer support have seen this and acknowledge this issue. Let’s hope the message gets to Elektron HQ as well. I still have an open ticket on the Elektron page that no one has replied to regarding this matter as well in the hopes that enough tickets will get escalated.
Well, only thing that I have seen on Elektron page, is the promise for “sample management functionality”. Somehow this is now understood here as a promise for full redundancy backup for broken gear. Apples and oranges in my view. It sure would be great to have that in the future but if it happens, it would be an added bonus, not some broken promise you have a right to claim.
In your view is the key sentence here. Every other sampler on the planet has a way to get the samples off the sampler. Even with the Octatrack you can mount it as a hard drive. It follows suit that some kind of sample backup solution is incoming. I’m not sure why you continue to be antagonistic for no reason. It’s not constructive.
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because Elektron is here getting way more stick than it deserves imo. Elektron is criticised for not providing the functionality it has promised, but also for not providing the functionality it never has promised to provide.
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Seeing as they haven’t delivered anything yet despite promises, some criticism surely is justified?
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I’m using my Digitakt this morning and loving it! Stoked for OB!
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But saying backup wasnt promised so it shouldnt be expected is pretty extreme for a digital instrument that was designed and heavily promoted as a tool to sample live. I certainly dont remember anyone demoing it saying sampling should be done on an external device and backed up first, if I had I would not have been interested in buying it in the first place as it kills the workflow.
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My issue isn’t with the Elektron developers or engineers, it’s with marketing. The last year has been a failure in terms of overpromising and under delivering. That’s an issue of improperly managing expectations, false advertising, and poor communication. Some might call it a growing pain, but I hope that Elektron marketing takes a lesson from this and advertises what it can deliver, when it can deliver it instead of overcommitting and then putting undue pressure on developers to meet their unrealistic expectations.
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I will because I don’t need Overbridge or ever intend to use it 
(well I might try the standalone version if it materialises, but just for project management/renaming etc)
Sample transfer though, that’s a different matter.
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@t3h
Backup is coming, here’s Simon commenting on it:
We NEED Backup?
Any sampler worth anything has backup, it’s a given. Even a bloody pocket operator has backup.
It’s insane to me that the DT still doesn’t have backup a year after its release.
I’m looking at working with a band to do some live work and if so, we will be working on tracks together, makes me nervous that I won’t be able to backup any of the work we may do. Then to gig with no backup… ffs. Nerve racking!!!
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How anyone might even consider such completely self-evident, BASIC requirements for digital gear as debatable, is completely beyond me. It would be utterly weird, if Elektron wouldn’t see and acknowledge the necessity.
I’m glad Simon’s comment brought some clarity into the matter.
I don’t know the exact technical specs of +drives. But I do know that digital storage media can fail, no matter if harddisks, SSDs or whatever. +drives will probably be no exception, sooner or later. You can just hope for the best for the time being. The risk of losing some or many hours of hard work can easily (and only) be avoided by backup functionality. It’s not as important, if Overbridge or the transfer tool provides it, as having it avilable at all. Overbridge would offer the better workflow context though from my view.
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Was hoping it would be released this spring break… Can’t wait to hook it up to ableton.
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Just to add another point to this, you don’t even need to have the +Drive fail to loose everything… what if the main board dies (the board that +Drive is soldered too), or you have a power surge fry the DT. What if the DT gets lost in transit or is stolen? Not having any backup is crazy.
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Or if it’s just a bad unit you need to exchange. The DT i’m returning, the screen protection cover isn’t properly glued so it keeps pulling up. Had I a bunch of samples on it, I’d have to deal with the defect or lose samples! Thankfully I didn’t sample anything to it before deciding to exchange it for a Digitone.
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Yup, defects and warranty repairs are another big one!
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It’s YOUR fault if this happens, as you should not expect a 700$+ device to have any way of backing up a years worth of work. According to Elektron anyway. You can use it for “serious” work, at your own risk.
PS i believe DT was rushed to market to compete with AKAI’s MPC Live. Reason being, I just can’t fathom people as smart and talented as the designers at Elektron releasing something w/out a backup solution off the bat otherwise.
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