Standalone Maschine+

I’m not sure anything standalone could run Massive X, due to its reliance on specific processor instruction sets? NI mentions in the specs: " MASSIVE X requires an Intel processor with AVX or an Apple Silicon processor."

Current M+ is already powerful enough to handle Kontakt. I use some Kontakt 6 patches with my M+ with no problems. Also, NI already said M+ 3.0 will enhance Kontakt support support even further, allowing Kontakt 8 patches to run on standalone. At that point, they are also introducing some of the Play instruments to M+ standalone.

The main issue with running ALL Kontakt content comes from the fact that the DRM protections of the commercial Kontakt libraries cannot be implemented on the M+ standalone. The same limitation applies to DRM-protected Reaktor stuff such as Razor, Finger etc… However, if you create your own patch in Kontakt 6 on the computer, it will load up fine on M+

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It was somewhat mentioned on NI forums that there are no plans for new Maschine+ anytime soon, but I’d always take such statements with a pinch of salt. I think for NI to recover, they had best be sold on to another parent company with more resources. AlphaTheta maybe?

“NI to recover” --from what? Is the company hemoragging money or something?

If you’re longing for the halcyon days of the noughties, when NI created GENERATOR etc, those days are long gone and will never return… Just like the halcyon days of Elektron. It was a great time, but all things move on

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Yes NI is now a lost cause, sold and re-sold as a viable entity. Resources to restore it to a reputable company that pioneers new development in hardware and software. Kore, NKS, Maschine Jam, DJ Controller without jogwheels, concept of stems (in a different form) came from Traktor and Traktor was leading until it let Serato into the game. The old team had such good ideas. Now, every week is a mailer to sell presets and sound packs.

That would probably be the pessimist’s view.

Some things are happening…

It seems to me that NI’s whole business now is selling expansions, sound packs and presets. Anything else that they produce only serves to push them. I would assume they are the cheapest to produce and have the highest ROI by far.

You have your opinions, and I have mine. I’m done wasting energy trying to eplain why someone shouldnt hate specific companies/gear. If you think NI has lost the plot and is now only about selling sample packs, feel free to sell it all and move on

Not seeking an explanation. Expressing a view point. Why do I have to sell my gear and move on just because of this view point expressed? Sounds like a zero-sum opinion of a mindset that’s different from mine.

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I guess its easy to miread these sort of things after reading page after page of whinging on NI forums…

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I hope we get new (old) VSTs once Maschine 3 software lands on M+

I guess Massive X is off the table but still a of of interesting stuff already there.

Razor, perhaps?

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Has anyone got a new M+ unit with the updated NI logo?

Is it more powerful inside? Or is the processor upgradable like Push 3?

No chance otherwise they would of been shouting from the rooftops. Just logo change surely

Yes and the new logo is meh (to me). Reminds me of KIA logo or the output from a school project.

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It’s just a different logo

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Just a logo change, no update to the processor

What should they do? Send us all a new processor for our M+ on the new logo reveal?

I mean NI is not a great company, agreed, but the M+ - for what it does - is powered enough, is probably the most full featured groovebox around (maybe the MPC and Push SA can compete in this department but not many more), and has a (to my taste) wonderful workflow.

I do wish there was an M+ that runs all NI plugins natively in standalone, no doubt, but that‘s just not the device that the M+ is.

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M+ is “powered enough” yet it hasn’t even been able to run a lot of its own plugins natively? :thinking:

I asked because it was rumoured that more heavy duty plugins plus Kontakt 8 was coming in future…

All of a sudden it is feeling strong?

That’s because they have this “bounced to audio” - so called feature to save one CPU so you do one heavy CPU task at a time. I don’t think this is an elegant workaround at all.

The new logo is their sales graph followed by an exclamation point

Except they managed to mangle even that, and chopped the bottom off

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As far as I’m concerned bouncing stuff to audio means you are one step closer to an actual finished song! It should all end up as audio anyway.

If it clears the way for Kontakt 8 and other stuff that was shackled to controller mode then bring it on.