Yep …
It’s my fault too, because i didn’t wait before buy it …
I keep hope ( during the next 7 days )
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Anyone compared this with the Mpc Live/Force from a purely Sample based perspective? I’m not making synth based music these days, so not interested per se in the M+ for those attributes.
Not looking to ditch my Force, but curious.
If they will do better Kontakt support, it would be great.
Not just selected factory)
I haven’t tested that yet. Normally i just record off the Headphone Splitter direct to my iPhone if i capture video or to my Zoom H6 if i just want to capture audio.
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Well I just tested midi out to the Hydrasynth and capturing the loops back in… bad day for my Akai Force. I’ll have to test it with my whole set up and everything, but wow.
No latency, seemless and absolutely flawless loops. Even on arps. No clicks and pops nothing. Captured a bass arp loop from the Hydrasynth added in a FM8 pad and a monark lead all over a drum loop. Did some automation, etc. Sounds amazing, and is so quick and fun.
Having a bit of trouble with the arp, though. It doesn’t just trigger on the downbeat, it kicks in on the next upbeat. I have an idea, though.
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I’ve been told that I’m completely OCD about timing/drift but I’ve never had the audio recording latency with the Force that I keep hearing about. How are you all clocking slaved devices? And how tight are they? Which MIDI interface?
MC-101 slaved to Force: Tight. Both USB MIDI & DIN MIDI.
Model:Cycles slaved to Force: Sloppy as hell. Both USB MIDI & DIN MIDI.
iPad apeMatrix slaved to Force: Tight. iConnectivity mio.
iPad Audiobus slaved to Force: Sloppy. iConnectivity mio.
iPad Beatmaker 3 slaved to Force: Sloppy. iConnectivity mio.
Thanks for this information. I’m in the info gathering phase of making a decision.
Are you saying the Maschine+ midi timing is tighter than the Akai Force?
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Initial impressions are yes, particularly when sampling in the loops. Significant difference when just using the Hydrasynth, which was one of the main offenders when using the force. I’ll have to see what happens, though, when I integrate it into the whole studio.
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Force is more than usable, but when I record the loops to audio, there are always major clicks and pops at the loop point. There are none with maschine. It’s as good as the OT in this regard.
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Yea - I’d like to play with a box like the M+ or the Force (I just got interested in the Force after the latest update)
For what I like to make (my SC: https://soundcloud.com/teknolife206) I see pros and cons to each device.
Biggest con for the M+ is the fact you can’t assign external controls to internal parameters in standalone. Plus I have a MK3 and the M+ seems incredibly expensive.
Bigger questions I have about the Force are its sheer size and the midi timing when sending midi clock out. I have a Live MK1 and the timing sucks. But I like the idea of jamming something out, recording it, then exporting the stems all in standalone on the Force.
Good time to have choices I guess 
A little midi routing how to:
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Sorry if already covered.
Has anyone had success sampling audio via usb from a class compliant elektron box?
I know NI have said that only their interfaces are officially supported at the moment but was hoping this would also be possible.
Cheers
I don’t wanna take part in the discussion “dawless / why using M+ instead of an MK3 and a computer with a long usb cable
”, because i have plenty of reasons for not using a PC - even if most of them are just in my head - but ther reasons ARE there.
But one thing is for sure: Maschine+ completely changed my approach to making music. Maybe it’s just me, but after ableton, maschine software on a mac, octatrack, MPC live, MPC one, for the first time in my life i am able to “just sit down and make music”, without first setting up stuf, re-consulting manuals, solving problems… Very inspiring and powerful.
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It’s one of those things where if you have the anti-computer condition you’ll get it, if you don’t then you won’t. I don’t blame people for not getting it- on paper the Mk3 is the obvious choice between the two
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Yes, well said! Not sure why so many beat down users not wanting to use a computer for whatever their reasoning. Especially on a hardware forum.
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So, I tested the Maschine plus for a few days and must say, it is not for me… it feels like too much choices for my workflow.
I kept trying different effect chains on one sound and the endless Presets makes me feel anxious… I tried the drumsynths and the virtual synths and they are ok, but not fun to edit on all those equal pages… the occasional crackling and short digital Noise bursts are also totally annoying and reminds me of working with a computer.
in the end it is to much like a daw for me, and I face the same problems I have there. So lesson learned is: it is not so much the technical maintenance part of the computer that puts me off, it is the freedom of the daw… with the rytm and a4 I have a given structure and that fits me much more, which became now clearer to me…
The hardware itself is fine and the pads are lovely, also the overall handling is mostly pretty snappy… I can understand the raving about the plus from some Users here, but I am better off with my 12 tracks from a4 and ar I guess…
Overall I would now recommend to get the mk3 if interested in this workflow…
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this could be a machine + promo today
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Maschine+ looks like it’s knocked the Force out of my main set up. It’s too good.
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Dude, it’s so convenient to work with! I’m actually recording real life instruments again!
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Had some fun this morning using the Maschine+ to sequence an update to Korg Module Pro on the iOS. It now supports auv3, has some great patches, and it runs great in AUM:
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